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Cherilyn

Trying to find another relative of mine. I have a wedding (2nd marriage) and found this at Trove. OGILVIE-WILLIAMS Iris M daughter of Mr & Mrs Mott of Broken Hill to Raymond H younger son of Mr & Mrs Williams brown St Semaphore (SA?) will be solemised at Lutheran Church April 10 1943.
This is one of my Mott relatives and I have been trying to find out for sometime who her parents were. Her first husband was killed in WW1 - Stuart Ogilvie and they married 1938 Broken Hill. Can you help. Pat

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Ship was Dudbrook. See http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/con-wa7.html

Young Thomas D. 1598 10y 26 Central Criminal Court 18 08 1851
clerk S none 5' 4 3/4" brown hazel oval fresh stout

He was a postal clerk, charged with stealing cash from a letter (see Old Bailey online).

http://www.fremantleprison.com.au/Pages/Convict.aspx

Thomas George according to Fremantle prison site, Ticket of Leave Date 19 Dec 1853, Conditional Pardon Date Jan 1856.

Sorry can't see him after that. Might be worth getting a copy of the pardon as it may tell you where he was working. Possible he went interstate.

Hi! Cherilyn,I have been trying to find out what happened to Thomas G Young b.1827 brighton sussex uk convict ,landed feb. freemantle 1853 on the dudbrock,I think? please note I have tried this message board kind regards graham chambers n.z

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thanks for looking for me just wanted to check , i thought that was the case although his first wife just got married again tut tut
many thanks again for your time
best wishes
zena <3

Actually just found your post about him leaving a family behind in England. This being the case he and Mary may never have actually married legally, just acted as man and wife. That would explain why the story changed from one document to another!

Hi Zena

Sorry I have drawn a blank. I have found everything else: children, deaths, wife's death, burials...but not a marriage! Checked Vic, NSW, Qld & WA. Even UK & NZ! With a surname like Fraser she may be Scottish. Maybe they married there?

I do believe son George was the youngest - b. 1894. By this time she was almost 40. It is possible she had been married previously? But her eldest son was named Charles so...very frustrating!

Thank you for the info about Harold Forshaw.
Guess my next step is to search Italian records.
Cheers.

hi cherilyn
could you look for a marriage between charles viner townsend and a mary fraser sorry not sure when . charles got to australia after 1882 he lived in five dock sydney but could have married her anywhere in australia as not sure were he went when first arrived from england. he was born birmingham england 1856 and died five dock 1937
thanks for any help
zena :-)

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Hi Cherilyn,

Yes that is Eva's death, I have found that she did die in Townsville.

Thank yu for your help it is truly appreciated.

Kelly. :-)

Hello Cherilyn,

I have sent some more information in a PM re Military service etc. for Wallace John FROST b 1906 Ulmarra, NSW.

Thank you again.

Reece

Kelly, I can't see Edith in Qld or NSW, but I fear this may be poor young Eva's death in rural Qld:

1913/C4656
Eva Lockton
[father] Lockton
[mother] Rebecca Ward
** born England
aged 20 years

If you believe she died in Townsville, try contacting the council. http://www.townsville.qld.gov.au/resident/Pages/cemeteries.aspx

EDIT - not listed here http://www.myrasplace.net/hstones/htowns11.htm#L

Mike, here is the Qld marriage- index is online, does sound Italian.

1934/C3645 Danielli Elizabeth Marion [m] Forshaw Harold

She died in NSW in 1960:

10380/1960 FORSHAW ELIZABETH MARION [father] AUGUSTUS [mother] ELIZABETH [district] SYDNEY



Kelly, I will have a closer look later, have to race out now.

Hi Cherilyn,

Spotted your brilliant offer of lookups for down under..

I wonder if you could uncover the first marriage of my uncle Harold Forshaw in Queensland c 1934.please.

According to family now gone, she was called Bess or Betty, and there was talk of an Italian connection..

Harold re-married in 1961 in New South Wales to Edith May Wood and I met up with Edith's daughter earlier this year in Australia but she didn't know who Harold's first wife was, only that she had died.

Many thanks in advance.

Mike

Hi Cherilyn,

If this Edith is my Edith, then her middle name was Emma. Her parents were either Emma and John Luke Hubbard or Thomas and Amy Ellen Hubbard.

I am trying to find out if any other relatives of my 2x Great Aunt also emigrated to Australia. Eva Lockton emigrated to Australia 1910 and she was only 17yrs old. Eva went to Townsville.

Kelly

Hello Cherilyn,

Many thanks for your reply - I have sent a short PM.