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Hi Cherilyn,

Thank you so much for looking. Much appreciated

Liz

Hi Liz, whoa this is a bit tricky...can't see him marrying in Vic (as b. Bath or Somerset) nor a death in NSW or Vic with matching parents names. Not that that means he sin't there...somewhere.

Shame he didn't have a more unusual name really :-)

Sorry :-(

Hi Cherilyn,

This is a bit of a long shot really. I am looking for a Robert Bennett b Bath , Somerset in 1839 I cannot find him again in the UK census records after 1861. His parents were James & Mary Ann.
I am thinking that he may have gone out to Australia as his uncle went out there and married in Wilberforce in 1836.
Could you see if you can find him please?

Thank you in anticipation
Liz

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I have a feeling that the death of William in 1960 at Nambour is the correct one .
Little things trigger memories.Whilst doing my own tree yesterday I saw the name Bailey and that is the surname of the 2 brothers who came from Ireland in the family story.I had forgotten until I saw that name .

I am waiting for a reply from my friends.

Quoy, that's amazing, how weird is that!
Did you see my post about the cemetery in Nambour?

Nicola, sorry no luck.

:-(

Lorna, assuming she stayed in West Riding this could be her?

Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
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BARRACLOUGH Ethel Wakefield 9c 75
Dews Mary E Wakefield 9c 75
Hoole George W Wakefield 9c 75
Oakes Charles H Wakefield 9c 75

i.e. Hoole or Oakes

or

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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BARRACLOUGH Ethel Yates Halifax 9a 1163
Yates Alfred T Barraclough Halifax 9a 1163

or

Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Barraclough Ethel Lunn Bradford 9b 219
(spouse not listed)

or

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Barraclough Ethel Barraclough N.Bierley 9b 31
Barraclough Herbert Barraclough N.Bierley 9b 31

Thinking your dad was still a baby so wouldn't remember her and the family memory might be a bit amiss in saying she went before he was born.

Try looking at www.findmypast.co.uk/migration for each of these and see how you go. Do put a couple of years each side of her birth year and put allow alternatives for first name (which will then allow for initials etc).

Good luck, sorry I can't find her.

Omg
just looked up the 1871 Census for George and Catherine Bowler
out of curiosity ( until I have more evidence) George was born 3 miles away from where I am .

James Barraclough b.1872 Leeds & Charlotte Barraclough b.1872 Leeds.
I have now found Ethel on the 1911 Census still in Leeds & still single. Dad always said he had a sister he had never seen as she emigrated before he was born. He was born on 7th December 1912 if this is right Ethel must have emigrated 1911 or 1912. I'm now wondering if she married in Australia. Thanks for trying with this - I would love to find out what happened to her.
Best wishes, Loma.

I suspect it is the same cut-off dates. By hiding info it is their way of getting you to pay up on the off-chance. There is no match for Wm Gordon COLE marriage in Qld. Try it yourself:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1780

EDIT: Just found burial at Nambour for Wm Gordon Cole in 1960, born c1921. See other thread.

It does seem rather odd that if you pay for Ancestry the privacy date no longer applies as it does on the QLD website.
Edit to say I will ask for a look up on Ancestry .Au for the marriage
and get back to you if I may

So...mother still living, but father not?

But he didn't die back in 1960 I guess?! Just seems a big coincidence as fits marriage of parents being 1919 and his birth late 1920, as per enlistment in Qld. Of course, coincidences happen!

The brothers from Ireland, were they the COLE side, or mother's side?

You are going to find this a difficult task without more info. You need some solid facts, like dates and names, as family stories are interesting but not much help (and have often been embellished along the way, like Chinese whispers!). Hopefully someone with Ancestry access can help, tho I am curious as to how it will all work as all states have separate indexes and each have different cut-off dates...

Okay stop a minute
this is a summery of all the info I have
Son living
parents as already said mother living
Family story (well we all have them)
Way back 1800 s potato famine 2 brothers came from Ireland ,made lots of money had lots of land built a church on their land for the traveling vicar, and gave him a cow every time he passed by .

Next generation lost the lot ,but church apparently still standing

all this in Queensland

edit to say the name Gordon is passed down through at least 4 generations .
I cannot question my friends to closely as i am trying to do this as a surprise

Can't stop when I'm on a roll (no wonder I sometimes waste time, but I can't help it!)

Birth of Olive in Qld:

1896/C9521 Olive Catharine Bowler [f] Fred [m] Harriet Jane Smith

Fred & Harriet married in country Qld in 1894. Fred died 1934 aged 53, son of George & Catherine (nee WHARTON), and Harriet in 1968 aged 91. Also buried at Toowong.

Fred BOWLER arrived in Qld in Aug 1876, aged 6, aboard Dilharree. With him were parents George (45), Catherine (39) and siblings David (20), Selina (16), Louise (14), George (10) and Walter (8). Somone should be able to locate the family in the 1871 UK census. Catherine died in 1915 in Qld aged 78, dau of George WHARTON. George died in 1925 aged 96, son of Wm BOWLER & Anne OLIVER. They lived in Oxley, Qld.

Birth of Wm Hy in Qld:

1894/C2011 William Henry Cole [f] Edwin James [m] Elizabeth Dickson Watson

Edwin & Elizabeth married in country Qld in 1891. Edwin died in 1941 aged 71, son of Edwin & Sarah Ann (nee HEFFER), and Elizabeth in 1955 aged 84, daughter of James WATSON & Jane SUTHERLAND. Also Toowong. James (24) & Jane (22) arrived in Qld in March 1871 aboard Star Queen with an unnamed infant (most likely Elizabeth). Also John (47) and Jessie (50).

Arrival for Edwin J COLE in Qld in March 1887 aboard Almora aged 16. No other COLE family members appear to have travelled with him.

well cherilyn thank you for all this information
I will spend some time going through it

Now I am not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs but have you seen this on the board i have nudged it up.
Records board Aus bmds

If there is anything I can do for you please do not hesitate to ask

Thanks Gael, and hello Quoy

I welcome the distraction, feeling a bit despondent after finding out I have wasted a large amount of time on a transcription project (not on here).

Unfortunately they must have married after 1934, can't go any later than that in Qld due to privacy laws.

I'd say this is his WWII enlistment tho, shows his father's name:

COLE WILLIAM GORDON : Service Number - QX41934 : Date of birth - 17 Nov 1920 : Place of birth - BRISBANE QLD : Place of enlistment - GROVELY QLD : Next of Kin - COLE WILLIAM

Not much help either, really, as can't access Qld births after 1914!

Possibles for parents' marriage:
1907/B6010 Thornhill Ellen Cole William Henry
OR
1916/C2979 Bishop Caroline Sarah [m] Cole William David
OR
1917/C1257 Cole William [m] Day Lilian Rose
OR
1920/B24253 Bowler Olive Catherine [m] Cole William Henry

The ones with B prefix are more likely as these were in Brisbane, and the others were country Qld.

Could this be his death, quite young?

1960/C3008 William Gordon Cole [father] William [mother] Olive Catherine Bowley

If so the last marriage listed above is the right one, after all. They actually married in late December 1919 but registration was in 1920.

The Courier (Brisbane), Thursday 29 January 1920, p.6
BOWLER-COLES. -On December 30th, at Albert-street Methodist Church, Olive, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. F. Bowler, South Brisbane, to William, son of Mr. and Mrs. E. Cole, of Windsor.

William & Olive lived on Brown Street in Windsor. They both lived to a ripe old age. Olive Catherine died in 1994 aged 97 and Wm Hy in 1991 aged 96. They are buried at Toowong Cemetery with two of their young children who died. See http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:BASE::pc=PC_899

Getting a bit ahead of myself here, really, as you really need to get the death cert to make sure it is the right Wm. Unfortunately, an expensive exercise in Qld! See www.bdm.qld.gov.au

Hi Cherilyn
Please could you help me with information on this couple William Gordon Cole and Thora Augusta unknown.I have them on the electoral roll in Nambour Queensland in 1949 so they were married before then . I am sure they married in Queensland .

Edit to say Ginny found William alone in 1943
I am looking to go backwards on this couple.

Thank you