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Cherilyn,

I'm nudging up for Quoy who needs help with a Qld couple.

Gael

Carol, Mosman is the place, her surname was Bedford. So Frances B Bedford married Wilfred B Lloyd in Mosman, NSW. Sorry!

I can't see her birth in Vic or NSW but this *might* be her in the UK:

Births Dec 1868 (>99%)
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BEDFORD Frances Beatrice Dartford 2a 364

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It seems at age 12 in 1881 census, Frances Beatrice was living at an infant orphan asylum in Wanstead, Essex :-(


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Lorna, what were Ethel's parents' names?

Hi Cherilyn,
I remember Dad writing to Ethel when my Gran died in 1961 & she was in Newcastle then. I must have got her married name wrong. Thank you so much for looking for me. I'll go back and search for her marriage again.
xx Loma.

Cherilyn, Ah got it Frances B Mosman Bedford, yes one of the photos is a portrait of a Thomas Bedford 1770. Right on the hunt, thanks again.
Carol

Cherilyn, thank you so so much, yes that is them. so wife was Frances B. Mosman.or Bedford? The reason I am researching this family is I have a box of photos that I rescued from a carer of Rewa Lloyd, they were going to throw them away. I know Rewa never married and Llewellyn never had children. I have traced a very very distant relative on the Lloyd side but wanted to check out the mothers side. Thank you once again
Carol

The Argus, Friday 28 October 1949
LLOYD. -On October 27, at Melbourne, Wilfred Bartholomew Lloyd, of Toolern Vale (late of Stanhope), loved father of Llewellyn and Rewa (Eng- land), aged 79 years.

Surname: LLOYD
Given Names: Wilfrid Bartholomew
Father: Lloyd Percival
Mother: Amelia BARTHOLOMEW
Death Place: FITZ
Age: 79
Year: 1949
Reg Number: 12671
Event: D

Llewellyn was born in NSW

32099/1903 LLOYD LLEWELLYN B WILFRED B FRANCES B MOSMAN

Shows wife as Frances B but can't find her death. Aha! Their marriage!

5914/1898 LLOYD WILPID B [m] BEDFORD FRANCES B MOSMAN

Just can't find Rewa's birth. Even tried her as Bedford.

From www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

Hi Cherilyn, I am looking for birth of a Rewa Beatrice Lloyd born (I believe Victoria) 1899/1900 father Wilfred Barthlomew Lloyd. Wilfred left for Australia from England after 1891 and before 1899. I have found him on votors Reg. for Victoria1909 1914 1919 and 1949. What I really am after is the name of his wife. He did not marry in England so assume Australia.
Thank you Carol

Thank you for trying for me Chreriyn - you say like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Many thanks

Wendy

Hello Wendy

In that time period seems most likely he went to Victoria looking for gold, or maybe NSW or Qld, but I can't see any trace of him. The main rush in WA was not til the 1890s, and Tasmania in the 1870s.

Of course if had goldfever so badly that he never took the time to marry, he will be near impossible to find!!!

Add to that he may be listed as McDonald rather than MacDonald and it really is a needle in a haystack.

Sorry
:-(

Hi Lorna

I was hoping Ethel had a middle name, but no such luck!
Is this her?

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Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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BAIN Charles Grieve Leeds 9b 1042
BARRACLOUGH Ethel Leeds 9b 1042

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Bain Robert W Barraclough Hunslet 9b 897

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Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
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BAIN Stanley Barraclough Hunslet 9b 757


I can't see any record of them coming to Australia on findmypast. No matching deaths on ryersonindex.org.au. No military records found for Chas or sons. No Chas Grieve Bain or Ethel Bain in Australian electoral records on Ancestry.

Are you sure they all emigrated? When you say ;the family' were in Newcastle in the 1960s (Ethel would have been in her 70s by then), do you mean one of her children?

Hi Cherilyn,
I am looking for my fathers sister Ethel Barraclough born Leeds 1892. I think she married a Charles Bain also from Leeds. She emigrated to Australia arround 1915. In the 1960's the family were living in Newcastle , NSW. My father's wallet with her details in was stolen just before he died & I have not been able to trace the family. Any help or sugestions would be welcome.
Many thanks, Loma.

Hello Cherilyn could you please see if you have anything on Frederick Andrew Macdonald or possibly Andrew Frederick Macdonald.

Born 1821 in Dover, parents are William and Elizabeth.

He supposedly went to Australia about 1859/6 to the goldfields wherever they were!

Any small thing would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Wendy

Found Gladys Eva HOBBS aged 5 in 1901 census with her mother Jane (36) and father? William (shown as 26 but think this should be 36, looking at 1881 & 1911). Siblings: 'Salome' (11, believe this is Selina b. 1888), Margaret Jane (9, b. 1891), Minnie Rosa (7, b. 1893), and James (2). All living in Devon and all chn born in Plymouth. Jane born in Crawkerne, Somerset and Wm in Moorbath, Devon.

Wm is a journeyman baker in 1901. In 1881 there is a William HOBBS aged 16 born Morebath, Devon c1865, an assistant baker to Wm ESCOTT in Bampton, Devon.

:-)

Could it be...?!

CARR Stanley James Funeral notice 14JUL2009 Death 90 late of Stockton, formerly of Singleton Singleton Argus 17JUL2009

CARR Stanley James Funeral notice 14JUL2009 Death 90 late of Stockton, formerly of Singleton Newcastle Herald 17JUL2009

from www.ryersonindex.org

???

Marriages in NSW for son Stanley (Leslie's brother):

15480/1941 CARR STANLEY JAMES ERNEST POSNER DOREEN ROCKDALE

21786/1945 CARR STANLEY JAMES ERNEST MCCOY MAVIS JOY HURSTVILLE

No death found for Doreen so perhaps they divorced. This would explain why he was back home with his parents in 1943!

Wonder if Stanley & Mavis went back to the UK as well?

:-)

From findmypast:

CARR G E 1896 F 1923 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW
CARR J 1894 M 1923 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW
CARR S J E 1919 M 1923 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW

Here are a couple of possibles for marriage and birth, seems a good match given birth of Stanley below...

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Carr James Hobbs Hereford 6a 1016
Hobbs Gladys E Carr Hereford 6a 1016

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Hobbs Gladys Eva Plymouth 5b 206

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Carr Stanley J B Hobbs Plymouth 5b 331

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Stanley J B could be a mistranscription for Stanley J E (ie Stanley James Ernest who was with them in electoral roll!)

James' WWII enlistment:
CARR JAMES : Service Number - N71522 : Date of birth - 07 Oct 1895 : Place of birth - BELGRAM ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY NSW : Next of Kin - CARR GLADYS

more to follow...

Hi Cherilyn

Looking for information as regards James Carr & Gladys Eva ********. Maiden name unknown.

I have this so far regards James..but cannot determine Glady's maiden name.

Living at 124 Park Road, Barton, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1930.
Living at 124 Park Road, Barton, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1933.
Living at Caldarra Ave, Engadine, New South Wales, Australia in 1933.
Living at 36 Wellington Road, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1936.
Living at 36 Wellington Road, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1937.
Living at 61 Louis Terrace, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1943.

A Stanley James Ernest Carr is found living with James at 61 Louis Terrace, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1943. I assume he is related, but I do not know how?.

Arrived in Liverpool,on the 19th Sep 1946 from Australia, via Sydney, Melbourne, Fremantle and Port Tewfik, aboard RMS Orbita of the Pacific Steam Navigation Company.

Living at 483 Oxford Road, Reading, Berkshire, England in 1949.

Other relations and a marriage so as to find Glady's maiden name would be great!.

James & Gladys are parents of Leslie Alexander Carr, b1926 who married my aunt, Elizabeth (Bessie) Emma Wilson.

James & Gladys came to the UK in 1946. Leslie married Bessie in 1948, and emigrated back to Australia in 1960 with their 5 children.

Any additional info would be much appreciated. maybe Stanley is James father?. I believe Bessie has passed away..but not sure.

Thank You
Paul

Sorry I should have said the second birth entree is his 11133.

Hello Cherilyn
We have a copy of the birth & registration it says born 25 December 1863 father Richard Stephens present registered 10th May 1864 as Richard Stephens.His mother was the informant.
Elizabeth Johnstone married a Thomas Fell in 1865 Clunes Victoria AU.
Regards Corinne
Thanks for your help.