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14 Apr 2010 17:44 |
1861 England Census about Eliza Broomhead Name: Eliza Broomhead Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Gender: Female Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green St Matthew Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon the Zealot County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Hackney Road ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 208 Household Members: Name Age James Broomhead 45 Eliza Broomhead 45 Caroline Broomhead 17 William Broomhead 11 Henry Broomhead 8 James Broomhead 5
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 17:39 |
Sorry, so many things to double check and confirm. The last 3 posts are all correct. They are all confirmed relatives. Because of all of the help, posts are being submitted as we are replying to earlier ones. I stated in the opening that I was able to find Henry Smith in the 1841 and 1851 census, but needed help working out which one was the correct one. I really do think you are right in your research, but I have to be sure. I am now trying to find deaths of Henry Smiths at a young age, this would explain why they can't be found in the 1851 census.
OK, I have found 10 Henry Smith deaths in Bethnal Green between 1841 and 1851. Problem is, it doesn't state their ages.
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14 Apr 2010 17:33 |
1881 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: 52, Brook Street, Hackney SMITH, Henry Head Married M 40 1841 Shopkeeper Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1841 Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 20 1861 Plasterer Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, John Son Single M 19 1862 Plasterer Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1866 Helps In Shop Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Alice Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Harriet Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Alfred Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 1881 Bethnal Green Middlesex
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14 Apr 2010 17:32 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: 13, The Grove, Hackney, South Hackney
SMITH, Henry Head Married M 50 1841 Grocer Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married F 50 1841 Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 30 1861 Cheese Monger Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, John Son Single M 29 1862 Waiter Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Lizzie Daughter Single F 25 1866 Boot Machinist Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Alfred Son Single M 15 1876 Errand Boy Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Homerton London
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 17:30 |
Well I do not know what to say. The same two addresses are coming up again and again in the census baptisms and marriages offered you. I thoght you acknowledged the Smith /Broomhead marriage. as correct. I did ask you for some confirmed data at the beginning of your thread but you did not answer my request.
1901 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, Henry Address: 13, The Grove, Hackney SMITH, Henry Head M 60 1841 Grocer's Shop Keeper Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife F 60 1841 Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Henry Son M 40 1861 Plasterers Labourer Bethnal Green London VIEW SMITH, Harriet Daughter F 26 1875 Packer & Sorter In Laundry Homerton London VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter F 20 1881 Packer & Sorter In Laundry Homerton London VIEW CASUNS, Lilian Grand Daughter F 8 1893 Homerton London
1911 census - Address: 30 Church Hill Road Homerton SMITH, Henry Head Married M 70 1841 Retired Grocer London Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Eliza Wife Married 51 years F 70 1841 Assisting In The Business London Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Single M 50 1861 Potman Li Victualler London Homerton VIEW JASON, Harriett H Daughter Widow F 36 1875 Packer Sorter In Laundry London Homerton VIEW JASON, Charles Grandson M 4 1907 London W Hth VIEW C, Lilian Elizabeth Visitor Single F 18 1893 London Homerton
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 17:04 |
Great research Kira, but it still may not be the Henry Smith I need...unless I'm too tired to see the obvious.
The 1851 census is pretty clearcut, Only 1 Henry Smith born at and living in Bethnal Green.
But 1841 census has 3...
Name Henry Smith Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1841 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Address Crab Tree Row District Bethnal Green, Hackney Road Parish St Matthew Bethnal Green Administrative County Middlesex Birth Place Middlesex Birth County Middlesex
Name Henry Smith Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1841 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Address Ravencroft Street District Bethnal Green, Hackney Road Parish St Matthew Bethnal Green Administrative County Middlesex Birth Place Middlesex Birth County Middlesex
Name Henry Smith Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1841 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Address Ely Place District Bethnal Green, The Green Parish St Matthew Bethnal Green Administrative County Middlesex Birth Place Middlesex Birth County Middlesex
So can you see my hesitation.
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 16:37 |
All of these correspond with
1871 census - household transcription Person: BROOMHEAD, William Address: Ely Place, Bethnal Green, London BROOMHEAD, William Head M 21 1850 Middlesex VIEW BROOMHEAD, Elizabeth Wife F 23 1848 London VIEW BROOMHEAD, Eliza Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex
1851 census - Address: 2, Ely Place, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets SMITH, Fredrick Head Married M 50 1801 Cordwainer East Dereham Norfolk VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1818 Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Henry Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, John Son Unmarried M 8 1843 Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, David Son Unmarried M 4 1847 Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 1 1850 Bethnal Green VIEW SMITH, William Son Unmarried M 29 1822 Cordwainer Bethnal Green
1841 census - Address: Ely Place, St Matthew Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets SMITH, Frederick M 40 1801 VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, William M 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Alfred M 13 1828 Middlesex VIEW SMITH, Henry M 0 (6 months) 1841 Middlesex
They lived just two doors away in 1851
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14 Apr 2010 16:36 |
There are also two Janes with parents Frederick and Elizabeth who may have died young,
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14 Apr 2010 16:34 |
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 ALFRED RIGBY SMITH Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 18 JUN 1827 Christening: 18 JUN 1843 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England Parents: Father: FREDERICK SMITH Family Mother: ELIZABETH No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C046984
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14 Apr 2010 16:31 |
ELIZA ELIZABETH SMITH Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: 06 NOV 1836 Christening: 01 JUL 1838 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England Parents: Father: FREDERICK SMITH Family Mother: ELIZABETH C046984
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14 Apr 2010 16:30 |
JOHN SMITH Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 25 MAY 1843 Christening: 18 JUN 1843 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England Parents: Father: FREDERICK SMITH Family Mother: ELIZABETH C046984
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 16:28 |
EMMA SMITH Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: 22 OCT 1849 Christening: 18 NOV 1849 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England
Parents: Father: FREDERICK SMITH Family Mother: ELIZABETH C046984
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14 Apr 2010 16:27 |
DAVID THOMAS SMITH Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 24 AUG 1847 Christening: 24 OCT 1847 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England Parents: Father: FREDERICK SMITH Family Mother: ELIZABETH No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C046984
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 16:26 |
In the same batch
HENRY SMITH Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 28 NOV 1840 Christening: 20 DEC 1840 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England
Parents: Father: FREDERICK SMITH Family Mother: ELIZTH. No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C046984
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LadyKira
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14 Apr 2010 16:23 |
Look at the adress,
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14 Apr 2010 16:22 |
CAROLINE MARY ANN BROOMHEAD Pedigree Female Birth: 21 APR 1843 Christening: 18 JUN 1843 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England Parents: Father: JAMES BROOMHEAD Family Mother: ELIZA
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Wendy
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14 Apr 2010 16:14 |
Thankyou very much Kira. Lots of info there. I just wish I could be certain that is the correct family. Chances are good that it is, but too much info to add then find out it was the wrong family.
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14 Apr 2010 15:59 |
Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%) Broomhead William Mackay Bethnal Green 1c 470 Piper Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 470
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14 Apr 2010 15:57 |
1871 census - household transcription Person: BROOMHEAD, William Address: Ely Place, Bethnal Green, London BROOMHEAD, William Head M 21 1850 Middlesex VIEW BROOMHEAD, Elizabeth Wife F 23 1848 London VIEW BROOMHEAD, Eliza Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex
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14 Apr 2010 15:49 |
Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%) BROOMHEAD Caroline Mary Ann Bethnal Gn 1c 577 Burnett George Charles Bethnal Gn 1c 577 Starkey William Bethnal Gn 1c 577 WEAVER Emma Bethnal Gn 1c 577
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