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Marie

I am sorry i have john death listed 1849 stoke damerel

theres no other way if finding his death is there or were hes buried without getting a certificate

i think i had better have a break rom the computer now


joyce

Joyce, if you don't know where he died how do you know the death I posted isn't his?

I agree £9.25 for a certificate is a bit steep if it's the wrong one.

sorry marie

my eyes are playing tricks again


joyce

Marie
No he was born 1815 devon died 1849 problem is i dont know were he died
was it devon or was he in the navy i am just guessing charlotte remarried in june 1835 as she was a widow

the certificates are so expensive now

many thanks

joyce

Joyce, is this John's death?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about John Mcdowell
Name: John Mcdowell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1849
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 9
Page: 441

If so, the only way to find out why he died young is to order a copy of his death certificate.

marie

Yes i have john and william marriage to charlotte

how can i find why john died so young sept 1849


many thanks joyce

W.S

Yes all except two

W.S

Yes all except two

Are these connected to present day McDowells still in the Portsmouth area ?

Joyce - on the 1853 marriage record there is a Charlotte McDowell and a William Beeching. There is then the 1861 census showing Wm and Charlotte Beeching so that shows which pair married.

Rootgatherer

My you have been busy with my mcdowells I had a feeling edmund was in the navy

I see some have different spellings

marriages in 1853 who married who as they all have the same 5b 538 ??

May i ask a favour

i would like to know were they were buried as five of william and mary anns children died very young between 1822 - 1837

May i ask a favour please mainly my 3rd grt grandfather william b 1792 devon died 28/6/1842 clowance stoke damerel in a lunatic asylum

also john and william henry 1897

i have tried every thing

thank you for all your help i am very grateful

joyce

???

1881

Name: Edmund Mc Dowell
[Edmund McDOWELL]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William H. Mc Dowell
Mother's Name: Edith Mc Dowell
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: 41 Duke Street
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2207
Folio: 3
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William H. Mc Dowell 34
Edith Mc Dowell 35
Elizh. Mc Dowell 12
Alfred Mc Dowell 10
Wm. Mc Dowell 8
Emily Mc Dowell 6
Edmund Mc Dowell 2

1901

Name: Edmund McDowell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marys with St Barnabas
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: Portsea and Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 999
Folio: 120
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred McDowell 28 Head, Ship's Cook R.N.
May McDowell 19 Wife
Edmund McDowell 21 Ship's Cook Mate R.N.



So looks like Edmund was a little older than he stated in 1911 and was indeed previously in the Royal Navy.


Births Dec 1879 McDowell Edmund Polglass Stoke D. 5b 319


1871 - mistranscribed as McDonald

Name: William H McDonald
[William H McDowell]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Editha H McDonald
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England
Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: [Mother church]
Town: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Clowance
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 227
Piece: 2130
Folio: 47
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
William H McDonald 24
Editha H McDonald 24
Elizabeth C McDonald 1

Marriages Mar 1869
McDowell William Henry Stoke D 5b 507
RUNDLE Editha Harriett Stoke D 5b 507



1851

Name: William McDugal
[William McDowell]
[William McDowell]
[William McDowell]
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Charlotte McDugal
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Clowance
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 447
Piece: 1881
Folio: 269
Page Number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte McDugal 33 Widow
Louisa McDugal 12
Anelia McDugal 10
Ronna McDugal 7
Ellen McDugal 5
William McDugal 3


1841

Name: John McDowall
[John McDowell]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Stoke Damerell
Hundred: Devonport Borough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Shoe M J (probably an abbrev. for Shoemaker Journeyman)

Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Clowance
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 272
Book: 6
Folio: 3
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John McDowall 25
Charlotte McDowall 25
Louisa McDowall 3
Amelia McDowall 1


Looks like Charlotte re-married in 1853

Marriages Sep 1853
BEECHING William Stoke D 5b 538
BONE William Henry Stoke D 5b 538
Came Sophia Mary Stoke D. 5b 538
MCDOWELL Charlotte Stoke D 5b 538


1861

Name: Charlotte Beeching
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Wm Beeching
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Clowance
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 452
Piece: 1449
Folio: 146
Page Number: 66
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Beeching 36
Charlotte Beeching 43
Rosina Beeching 18
Ellen McDowel 15
Wm McDowel 13

Lindsey

I found someone tracing rose daniels side on G.R

i wish i could find someone tracing my mcdowell side

thank you so much for your help


joyce

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Percy E Mcdowell
Name: Percy E Mcdowell
Spouse Surname: Rose Daniels
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Southampton
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1545
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Marie

I am trying to trace percy forwards

edmund poleglass mcdowell b 1879 d 1925 i found was buried in a war grave with alfred william coward b 1905 died 16/10/1939 so i assumed he
wa in the navy ??

alfred william coward was married to may emily mcdowell
she died 7/5/1996 portsmouth
married august 1928 they had two children jean b 2/4/1930 derek b june 1934 portsmouth

thanks for your help

Joyce, Dea has put ***** next to the names on that 1902 marriage record to indicate who the bride and groom were - namely, Blanche Susannah Bailey and Percy James Reynolds. This couple were staying with Blanche's sister May (Mabel) on the 1911.

The years married on the census are 7 for Mabel and Edmund and 9 for Blanche and Percy.

The daughter Maisie age 5 is most likely a nickname for your May Emily.

Where did you get the info from re: Edmunds birth year and possible naval occupation?

Are you trying to trace Percy backwards or forwards?

Dea

i have may louise bailey b 1885 b and blanche susannah bailey b 1875 as sisters

may louise married edmund mcdowell had daughters may emily mcdowell b 1906 blanche lydia mcdowell b 1915

who is the marriage date for

I am confused now

Looks like 'Mabel' may well be May Bailey as Blanche Reynolds could well be her sister?

I will look further.

Marriages Sep 1902
-----------------------------------------

Bailey Blanche Susannah Portsmouth 2b 1038 ***
Bedford George Portsmouth 2b 1038
Chambers Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 1038
Reynolds Percy James Portsmouth 2b 1038 ***

Dea x

Lindsey and Choccy

Thank you so much for the information you sent me

i have had several migraines lately which affects my eyes also headaches

so i couldnt send a reply yesterday

i have edmund b 1879 i thought he was in the navy

lindsey what is that 7 years married to mabel or am i reading it wrong

many thanks

joyce

thank you for all the info sorry my eyes have gone funny i will look another time as i cnt readi it rigt