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UPDATED TODAY William Bryant 1854,Rochester, Kent

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 28 Sep 2013 11:19

Hi, my great grand uncle, full name William George Pritchard Bryant was born in 1854 in Rochester, Kent. His father was John Wheeler (Weeler) Bryant and mother Sarah Bryant nee Fry. I can find nothing on William beyond the 1861 Census for him when he is shown as living with his mother and siblings in Kent. Father, John, is not shown on this Census.

Is anyone please able to assist in seeing if they can find anything farther on William?

Any help will be greatly appreciated as ever.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Sep 2013 11:27

For ref


1861 England Census about William Geo Bryant
Name: William Geo Bryant
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Bryant
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester

Civil Parish: Rochester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration District: Medway
Sub-registration District: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 9
Piece: 477
Folio: 70
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Bryant 47
Sophia Bryant 18
Harritto Bryant 14
James John Bryant 12
William Geo Bryant 6


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William George Pritchard Bryant
Name: William George Pritchard Bryant
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 2 Jul 1854
Christening Place: Rochester, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Wheeler Bryant
Mother's Name: Sarah

Gai

Gai Report 28 Sep 2013 11:29

This could be him in 1881

Name: William Bryant
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 1 James Court
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration District: Medway
Sub-registration District: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 894
Folio: 21
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age

William Bryant 27
Emily E. Wood 25

Emily is a lodger on the census

Gai

Gai Report 28 Sep 2013 11:33


Could this be him in 1871

Name: William Bryant
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Rochester
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration District: Medway
Sub-registration District: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Schedule Number: 67
Piece: 904
Folio: 30
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Rodney 66
Mary Rodney 58
Mary Rodney 22
Mary E Rodney 13
Charles Rawlinson 2
Sarah Packman 53
William Bryant 17
George Bryant 7

Gai

Gai Report 28 Sep 2013 11:38


Maybe 1891

Name: William Bryant
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bryant
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Frindsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip of James
Town: Upnor
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Strood
Sub-registration District: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 653
Folio: 26
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bryant 36
Eliza Bryant 26

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 28 Sep 2013 11:44

Hiya, thank you for the information provided. I see on the 1881 Census it shows William as being married although the only name showing as well on the Census is Emily who is a lodger. Am not too sure at the moment about the 1871 Census as the George Bryant showing doesn't fit with the family I have around that time.

Thank you all for your time and help. There are so many William Bryant's, if only they gave William's full name or at least his middle initials it would make it easier for researching him.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Sep 2013 11:50


1841 England Census about Sarah Bryant
Name: Sarah Bryant
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Strood
Hundred: Shamwell
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: North Aylesford
Sub-registration District: Strood
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 491
Book: 9
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bryant 40 1801**************
Sarah Bryant 24 1817*************
Elizth Bryant 2
Ann Bryant 1 Mo

Potty

Potty Report 28 Sep 2013 12:53

Sarah Packman and the two Bryant boys are a separate household to the Rodneys. John Wheeler Bryant seems to have died in 1864 so possibly Sarah remarried (she is shown as wife on the image). The younger Bryant boy is shown as her grandson.

Potty

Potty Report 28 Sep 2013 12:55

There is a possible marriage for a Sarah Bryant to a George Packman, but it is after the 1871 census:


Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)

Allen Thomas Hoo 2a 637 Scan available - click to view
Bryant Sarah Hoo 2a 637 Scan available - click to view
PACKMAN George Hoo 2a 637 Scan available - click to view
PIPER Patience Susan Hoo 2a 637

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 28 Sep 2013 12:56

Hi Potty, thank you, will investigate this one now.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 28 Sep 2013 19:59

Hi,

The marriage of George Packman and Sarah Bryant, is on Medway City Ark.


July 2nd 1871 at Hoo St. Werbergh

George Packman - age 40 - bachelor - sailor - father George (labourer)

Sarah Bryant - age 53 - widow - father James (bricklayer).


Hope this helps. Cx

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 4 Mar 2017 11:42

UPDATE on my great grand uncle, William George Pritchard Bryant.

Good morning all,

I now have William's birth certificate which shows that he was born on 6 June 1854 at Five Bells Lane, St Margaret, Rochester, Kent. I am still searching for his death to no avail. Is there anyone who can assist in my continued search for his death please? As ever, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Kathryn

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Mar 2017 14:55

just in case
1911


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6 Dallisons Square High Street Chatham, Chatham, Kent, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Bryant Head Widower Male General Labourer 60 1851 Kent Rochester
Transcription
Census details

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 4 Mar 2017 15:00

Thank you. We'll keep this one in mind although it says born 1851 but we know how transcriptions were not so good at times when it comes to years of birth/age etc.

I've spent hours and hours on this one, leaving it alone for a while then coming back to it. That's why in the end I sent off for his birth certificate in the hope that the exact birth date might yield something but, as yet, still no joy.

Regards

Kathryn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Mar 2017 16:14

1871 census
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Five Bells Lane, St Margaret, Medway, Kent, England

Sarah Packman Wife - Female 53 1818 - Kent, England Transcription
William Bryant Son-In-Law - Male 17 1854 - Kent, England Transcription
George Bryant Grandson - Male. 7 1864, Kent

So still in Five Bells Lane

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 4 Mar 2017 16:33

Thank you for the new information, I believe it's after this time that it all gets a bit of a mystery. William on this Census is actually Sarah's son and not son in law. I think I find William in the 1881 Census as below

Name: William Bryant
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 1 James Court
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Medway
Sub registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 894
Folio: 21
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bryant 27
Emily E. Wood 25

This states that William is married but the lady, Emily, is given as being a lodger/charwoman and unmarried. So who is William's wife?

I think this is William in the 1891 Census, not 100% sure though:

Name: William Bryant
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bryant
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Frindsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip of James
Town: Upnor
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 653
Folio: 26
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bryant 36
Eliza Bryant 26

It is now stating again that William is married but his wife is Eliza some 10 years younger than him. It shows Eliza as being born in Sittingbourne. I have tried to search for a marriage for William with someone called Eliza but can't find it. As before, not 100% sure this is my William though. The mystery continues.

Thanks for all your time and help.

Regards

Kathryn