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(just to add, that 1889 Birth from other 'Thread' was son of below, checking GRO)


Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Emmerson Alfred Barrett Worksop 7b 69
Shawcroft Eliza Worksop 7b 69


1891 (Find My Past)
Alfred B Emmerson Head Married Male 35 1856 Coal Miner Monmouthshire, Wales
Eliza Emmerson Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Maggie Emmerson Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Yorkshire, England
William H Emmerson Son - Male 2 1889 - Yorkshire, England
Helen Emmerson Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Yorkshire, England
Wales Road, Wales, Worksop, Nottinghamshire

Chris :)

Lewella Report 8 Mar 2009 22:08

Any dates or ages? Could this be him?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Henry Emmerson
Name: William Henry Emmerson
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Worksop
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 7b
Page: 35


Edits (quite few of Surname on below, Scartho)

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/area.php?area=Lincolnshire&country=En&scrwidth=1200

Andrew- Harry and Henry are often interchangeable.

It's definitely not the son of Harry/ Henry Emmerson and Ann Foster- he died in the US:

Name: Harry Emmerson
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 87
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1886
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 17 Sep 1973
Death Place: Ft Wayne, Allen, Indiana, USA
Marital Status: Widowed
Father: Harry Emmerson
Mother: Annie Foster
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So this is the birth certificate you need to confirm mother:

EMMERSON, HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 363
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I suspect Henry was the illegitimate son of Matilda (as said before, you'll need the cert to confirm), but brought up as the son of Matilda's brother, William.

William and his wife/ partner Rebecca had been together a long time and only had one daughter Mary/ Polly:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Dock Street, Great Grimsby, Caistor, Lincolnshire, England

William Emerson Head Married Male 42 1849 Dockside Labourer Nottingham
Rebecca Emerson Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Lincolnshire, England
Polly Emerson Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Harry Emerson Son Single Male 4 1887 - Nottingham
Charles Porter Boarder Single Male 33 1858 Fisherman Borough, Middlesex, England
John Carney Boarder Single Male 56 1835 Fisherman Poplar, Middlesex, England
James Speedy Lodger Married Male 35 1856 Jet Worker Whitby, Yorkshire, England
Mary Speedy Lodger Married Female 36 1855 - Kettering, Northamptonshire, England

Thanks for your work, it does look like my Henry is the son of Matilda, little confused with the Harry bit? any news on the farther? will have to try get the birth record.

Andy

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_topics/thread/1133178

(Andrew Report 8 Mar 2009 22:06

Hi
I am trying go back on my mums side Emmerson and could do with some help. from the late 1890's they lived in grimsby and originated from the Nottingham area, mums grandad William Henry and he's dad William.
Thanks)

(relating above?)

Chris :)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 04 Feb 1921
Person age 76
Burial person forename William Henry
Burial person surname EMERSON
Register note Died 30/01/1921


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name St Stephen (New Clee)
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 287
Baptism date 09 Oct 1908
Birth date 07 Sep 1908
Person forename William Henry
Person sex M
Person abode Grimsby
Father forename Henry
Father surname EMMERSON
Father occupation Fisherman
Mother forename Caroline Beatrice


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 03 May 1929
Person age 20
Burial person forename William Henry
Burial person surname EMERSON
Register note Died 29/04/1929

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Yes, Chris- need to know if he has the actual certificate.

Pickering Emmerson's parents do have a grandson Henry with them on the 1861 & 1871 census which I presume is the one he's trying to link?-

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Crocus Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Jonathan Emmerson Head Married Male 62 1799 Labourer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Sarah Emmerson Wife Married Female 63 1798 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Jonathan Emmerson Son Unmarried Male 28 1833 Carter Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
Sarah Emmerson Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 Seamstress Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Matilda Emmerson Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1840 Seamstress Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Henry Emmerson Grandson - Male 2 1859 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
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I think this is the Henry that married Ann Foster and had this son Harry (Chris posted the 1891 census & 1901 census earlier):

EMMERSON, HARRY mmn FOSSER
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 361

If you don't have the birth certificate, getting it will give you his exact date of birth and then you'll know if it's the same one that married Caroline Steer.
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Possibly Harry senior's death (he was recorded as deceased on Henry jnr marriage):

Name: Harry Emmerson
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b Page: 221

EDIT: Sorry Chris, just seen that you also posted this death.

(can't stay, but need more from Andrew!)

Chris :)

Andrew Report 4 Dec 2016 10:19

Hi
We have seen a certificate of Henry's 1886 that confirms Henry Emmerson b Nottingham was his farther,

(did see below earlier AQ, (was wondering the same!)

Chris :)

County Nottinghamshire
Place Arnold
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 21 May 1888
Groom forename William
Groom surname COOK
Bride forename Matilda
Bride surname EMMERSON

(if she relates)

No maiden name given on the birth (the Fosser maiden name is possibly Foster)

EMMERSON, HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 363

EMMERSON, HARRY FOSSER
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 361
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Do you have the birth certificate? Is it possible that Henry was the illegitimate child of Matilda Emmerson (the daughter of Pickering Emmerson?)
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Royal Naval Reserve Service Records Index, 1860-1955
Name: Henry Emmerson
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1885
Birth Place: Nottingham
Date: 1908-1955
Service number: C 5153
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8576805#imageViewerLink

I would assume this is the same man- there are several entries some 21st October and some 31st October- born Nottingham:

Looking at the distorted image image, it gives father as William:

Name: Henry Emmerson
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1885
Birth Place: Nottingham
Date: 1908-1955
Service number: SB 1

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8549962#imageViewerLink

What other info. is on 1886 Birth Cert.?...

Chris :)

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 03 Apr 1825
Person forename Pickering
Person abode Leen Side
Father forename Jonathan
Father surname EMMERSON
Father occupation Baker
Mother forename Sarah

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link)


Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%)
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EMMERSON Pickering Nottingham 15 789
TOMMS Ann Nottingham 15 789


Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
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EMMERSON Pickering 54 Nottingham 7b 203

Hi
We have seen a certificate of Henry's 1886 that confirms Henry Emmerson b Nottingham was his farther, now my granddad when he was alive remembers grand parent/uncle named Pick which leads me to believe Pickering Emmerson b1823 Nottingham was his dad? m to Ann Tomms? just need to prove/disprove this.

Andy

(there is below about also!)

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past)
Harry Emmerson Head Married Male 32 1859 Iron Turner Nottingham
Annie Emmerson Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Nottingham
Sarah L Emmerson Daughter Single Female 8 1883 Scholar Nottingham
Harry Emmerson Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Nottingham
William Foster Boarder Married Male 44 1847 Army Pensioner
Lamcote Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire


1901 (Find My Past)
First name(s) Harry
Last name Emmerson
Relationship Inmate
Gender Male
Age 14
Birth year 1887
Occupation Housework & Errands
Birth town as transcribed NOTTINGHAM
Street Peel Street
Parish Nottingham


Birth
EMMERSON, SARAH LOUISA FOSTER
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 311

Birth
EMMERSON, HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 363


Nottinghamshire marriages, 1528-1929 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Harry
Last name Emmerson
Marriage year 1880
Marriage date 23 Oct 1880
Marriage place Nottingham
Church St Saviour
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Annie
Spouse's last name Foster


04 August 1894 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

Death
EMMERSON - On the 26th ult., Annie, the beloved wife of Harry Emmerson, of 28, Kirke White street. Deeply lamented. Her end was peace.


Deaths Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Emmerson Annie 34 Nottingham 7b 172


Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Emmerson Harry 38 Nottingham 7b 221


(both Burials on below)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Strange that neither Henry shows on any census

Not seeing a marriage either for his parents as quoted on the baptism record

Henry not at home
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
174 Rutland St Grimsby, Clee, Lincolnshire, England


Caroline Beatrice Emmerson Wife Married Female - 23 1888 Grimsby Lincs Transcription
William Henry Emmerson Son - Male - 2 1909 Grimsby Lincs Transcription
George Emmerson Son - Male. - 1. 1910. Grimsby

Married. 3 years 2 children born

Marriage
Henry
Last name Emmerson
Sex Male
Age 21
Birth year 1887
Residence 73 Buller St
Marriage year 1908
Marriage date 26 Feb 1908
Marriage place New Clee St John
Church St John
Spouse's first name(s) Caroline Beatrice
Spouse's last name Steer
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's residence 73 Buller St
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Henry
Father's last name Emmerson
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Steer
Page 64
Archive Lincolnshire Archives

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St John
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 01 Dec 1886
Person forename Henry
Person sex M
Person abode 3 Bishops Row
Father forename Henry
Father surname EMERSON
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Matilda

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(if him)

Chris :)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 27 Dec 1950
Person age 63
Burial person forename Caroline Beatrice
Burial person surname EMMERSON
Register note Died 22/12/1950

1939 register

Emmerson Household (2 People)
4 Santon Terrace , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Henry Emmerson 31 Oct 1886 General Works Labourer
Caroline Emmerson 15 Oct 1887 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Ref: RG101/6449A/003/25 Letter Code: TMNA

Are you sure his dad was also a Henry ??

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
21, Flower Square, Grimsby, Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

William Emmerson Head Married Male 44 1857 Agricultural Labourer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Rebecca Emmerson Wife Married Female 45 1856 - Lincolnshire, England
Henry Emmerson Son Single Male 14 1887 Butchers Assistant Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Frank Smith Boarder Single Male 44 1857 Agricultural Labourer Derby, Derbyshire, England
Alfred Tune Grand Son Single Male 0. 1901. Grimsby

His birth cert will give both parents names

HENRY
Last name EMMERSON
Birth year 1886
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District NOTTINGHAM
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 363

What link is it you are looking for

Have you found them on any census

How did you get back to them

Hi
I am struggling to find the link I need with Henry Emmerson born c1860 in the Nottingham area, he had a son Henry Emmerson born 1886-1942 born Nottingham and moved to Grimsby married to Caroline Beatrice Steer (my g grandparents) any help appreciated.

Thanks
Andy