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Hello mgnv.

Thank you very much for all that information and for all that time it must have taken you.

That will keep me very busy this weekend.

Alan.

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Manitoba / Brandon / 4 Township 8 in range 19 west of the 1st M / page 3
31 21 Sheppard Thomas 36 - 8 - 19 - W1 M Head M Aug 1883 27
32 21 Sheppard Christina F Wife M Apr 1887 24
33 21 Sheppard Lambert John M Son S Sep 1907 4
34 21 Sheppard Dorthy F Daughter S Mar 1908 3
35 21 Sheppard ? Mary F Daughter S Apr 1909 2
36 21 Sheppard ? M Brother S Nov 1891 19
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001944849.pdf
[The brother has pob=Man - so presumably Christopher; Thos gives his immig as 1892]

I've not found Robt in 1911.


Also his bro Thomas:
Surname: Shepherd
Given Name(s): Chrisena
Age: 30
Province: Manitoba
District Name: Brandon
Sub-District Description: Townships 7 and 8, ranges 17 and 18, west of the Principal Meridian, including the village of Wawanesa
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21925/pdf/31228_4363954-00296.pdf

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1906-001791
CHILD'S DETAILSLast Name: SHEPPARD
Given Names: LAMBERT
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 14/09/1906
PLACE OF BIRTH DETAILS Name of Hospital:
Place of Birth: R.M. OF OAKLAND
Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
FATHER'S DETAILSLast Name: Given Names:
Place of Birth: Date of Birth: Age:
MOTHER'S DETAILSMaiden Last Name: LESLIE Given Names: CHRISTENA

1916 - Christina is between her bros and next to her mum - see:
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148098-00028

Ship:PRETORIAN
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Moville, Ireland
Date of Departure: 1902-09-25 1902-09
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que.
Date of Arrival: 1902-10-04
Year:1902
Microfilm Reel Number:T-481
Remarks: List Number: 64
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:4055
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003653384.jpg
[Obadiah Shepherd, a=17, a steerage passenger from Yorks England headed to Brandon Manitoba]


Ancestry has this record in "Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935" which I lack the sub to access:
Name Birth Year Date of Arrival Port of Arrival Port of Departure Vessel
Thos Shepherd 1883 ?/?/1905 St John, New Brunswick, Canada Liverpool, England Lake Champlain


Given Name(s):Christopher
Surname:Shepherd
Age:19
Ship:SCOTIAN
Port of Arrival:Halifax
Date of Arrival:1911-04-00
Year of Arrival:1911
Microfilm Reel Number:T-4739
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:3034898
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e148/e003686893.jpg
[Chris has pob=Canada, and is headed for Rounthwaite MB;
He's next to a single Thomas Shepherd a=21 pob=England headed for Hamilton ON.
They're on difft tickets, and it could easily be alphabetical happenstance that they're on successive lines]

From 1871-1901, the Canadian nominal census day is within a day of the UK's.
From 1906-1921, the Canadian nominal census day is in June

Robt's 1916 census is referred to by others above

Here's his 1916 image:
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21927/pdf/31228_4363956-00411.pdf
[addy T6 R13 W1M, a=34, Farmer, immig 1898]

So Robt re-emigrates to Canada:

1898
Ship:PARISIAN
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Londonderry, Ireland
Date of Departure: 1898-03-24 1898-03-25
Port of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. Portland, ME
Date of Arrival: 1898-04-01
Year:1898
Microfilm Reel Number:C-4518
Remarks: Date of arrival may apply to Halifax only List Number: 66
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:9369
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e177/e004411444.jpg
Robt a=16 is a Labr from England.
I can't make out where he's headed - it might be Brandon (in MB) - Ancestry might have a better image


http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1914-145278
Place of Marriage: VICTORIA
Date of Marriage: 30/11/1914
GROOM BRIDE
Last Name: SHEPHERD Last Name: STACEY
Given Names: ROBERT Given Names: ALICE MAUD

Robt dies close to his 1916 residence

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1942-016565
DECEASED DETAILS Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: ROBERT Sex: MALE
Date of Death: 16/04/1942 Time of Death:
Place of Death: RM VICTORIA
BIRTH DETAILS Date of Birth: 23/07/1881 Age At Death: 60 Units of age: YEARS
[which matches the 1881q3 rego I gave in my 1st post]


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1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: MB BRANDON (#6)
Subdistrict: Oakland J-5 Page 4
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6431
24 35 Chalmers William M Head M Jul 9 1860 40
25 35 Chalmers Sarah L. F Wife M Oct 29 1868 32
26 35 Chalmers Stanley M Son S Jan 8 1892 9
27 35 Chalmers Gordon H. M Son S Sep 30 1894 7
28 35 Chalmers James R. M Son S Jul 25 1896 5
29 35 Chalmers William H. M Son S Aug 10 1898 3
30 35 Shephard Robert M Servant S Jul 23 1883 18
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/pdf/z000014536.pdf
Sched 2 seems to be missing but Sched 1 header gives addy as T8 R19
Note although year is wrong, b'day matches death rego

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1905-001364
Place of Marriage: R.M. OF OAKLAND
Date of Marriage: 20/12/1905
GROOM BRIDE
Last Name: SHEPPARD Last Name: LESLIE
Given Names: THOMAS Given Names: CHRISTINA
Marital Status: SINGLE Marital Status: SINGLE
Age: 22 Age: 19
Place of Birth: ENGLAND Place of Birth: ROUNTHWAITE
FATHER'S DETAILS GROOM BRIDE
Last Name: SHEPPARD Last Name: LESLIE
Given Names: WILLIAM Given Names: JOHN
MOTHER'S DETAILS GROOM BRIDE
Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Maiden Last Name: ANDERSON
Given Names: JANE Given Names: MARY
Date of Registration: 20/12/1905

1906 Census Page Data
District: MB Brandon District (#1)
Subdistrict: 02 (Townships 7 and 8, ranges 18 and 19 west) Page 12
16 80 Sheppard Thos Head M M 22
17 80 Sheppard Christina Wife F M 20
18 80 Umer George Servant M S 26
19 80 Sheppard Robert M S 25
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e049/e001201358.pdf
[Thos immig 1902; Robt immig 1899]

1906 Census Page Data
District: MB Brandon District (#1)
Subdistrict: 02 (Townships 7 and 8, ranges 18 and 19 west) Page 11-12
35 77 Hawkings Samuel Head M M 56
36 77 Hawkings Mary Ann Wife F M 55
37 77 Hawkings John Son M S 21
38 77 Hawkings Sydeny Son M S 19
39 77 Hawkings Dina Daughter F S 16
40 77 Tannicliffe E. Boarder M S 30
1 77 Sheppard Obadiah Servant M S 20
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e049/e001201358.pdf
[Ob immig 1902]

They all use the Rounthwaite PO
Obadiah is at S16 T8 R18 W1M
Thos is at S30 T8 R18 W1M - he has 4 horse, 2 milk cows, and 2 sheep
Robt is at S19 T8 R18 W1M - he has 5 horse, 1 milk cow, and 4 sheep
It would seem that Robt is a visitor at Thos's

Name: John Leslie
Part:NE
Section:30
Township:8
Range:18
Meridian:W1
Folio:341
Liber:33
Microfilm Reel Number:C-5966
Item Number:487101
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/land/land-grants-western-canada-1870-1930/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=487101&
[John Leslie (Thos's f-i-l) is in the next h/h on the census, possibly in another quarter-section.]

Name: John Leslie
Part:SE
Section:30
Township:8
Range:18
Meridian:W1
Folio:272
Liber:26
Microfilm Reel Number:C-5960
Item Number:487103
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/land/land-grants-western-canada-1870-1930/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=487103&

[You can get copies of the images using the above 2 URLs]

The letters patent (i.e., title) are dated 5/1/1887 and 6/5/1886



*** EDIT *** I've figured out how to manipulate the html and the 2 image URLs are:

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e113/e002816592.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e113/e002812935.jpg

GlasgowLass gave the 1921 census for Alice - I'm going to focus on Robt here

Looking more at 1921 Robt
City, Town or Village: Victoria Municipality
Street or Township: 18 7 12W 1
Municipality: Victoria
Robert Shepherd 68 [39] - actually says age 38, immig 1888, Farmer
etc
I've sent Alan the image 1921_023-E002882119.jpg by pm

Now here's an 1888 immigrant family:
Ship:POLYNESIAN
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Londonderry, Ireland
Date of Departure: 1888-03-29 1888-03
Port of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. Baltimore, MD
Date of Arrival: 1888-04-07 1888-04
Year:1888
Microfilm Reel Number:C-4513
Remarks: List Number: 37
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:7760

Ancestry gives:
Name Birth Year Date of Arrival Port of Arrival Port of Departure Vessel View Images
Wm Shepherd abt 1858 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Jane Shepherd abt 1859 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Jane Shepherd abt 1877 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Wm Shepherd abt 1878 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Francis Shepherd abt 1880 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Robt Shepherd abt 1882 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Betsy Shepherd abt 1884 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Thomas Shepherd abt 1885 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Radish Shepherd 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
[There's a correction note giving Obadiah for Radish]
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003674460.jpg
The family is headed for Brandon MB

There's another Shepherd on the ship - a Mach headed for Winnipeg, but I don't see any connection to Robt.
Chas H Shepherd abt 1867 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003674456.jpg


Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
Lambert Jane Sedbergh 9a 1
Shepherd William Sedbergh 9a 1

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SHEPHERD, WILLIAM MOOR Order
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5

LAMBERT, JANE BIRKBECK Order
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5

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SHEPHERD, JANE LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 4 Occasional Copy: A

SHEPHERD, WILLIAM LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5

SHEPHERD, DOROTHY LAMBERT LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 713
-- Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
SHEPHERD Dorothy Lambert 2 E.Ward 10b 392

SHEPHERD, FRANCIS LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 661

SHEPHERD, ROBERT LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 670

SHEPHERD, BETSY LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 681

SHEPHERD, THOMAS LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 657

SHEPHERD, OBADIAH LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 681

Here they are in 1881:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-L1YJ
[The 2 older kids are with grandparents]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-WHC9
SHEPHERD, ROBERT MOOR Order
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 23 Page 631

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-WWXQ
Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
Bentham Robert Sedbergh 9a 1
BIRBECK Dorothy Sedbergh 9a 1
Capstick Margaret Sedbergh 9a 1
Lambert Francis Sedbergh 9a 1

Dent was a civil parish and subdistrict in Sedbergh RD. This RD was in the W Riding, but taken over by Kendal RD in 1974.


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1891 Here they are in 1891
Surname: Shephard
Given Name(s): Jane
Age: 33
Province: Manitoba
District Name: Selkirk
Sub-District Name: Brandon (City)
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148097-00055

They have 3 more kids - Christopher (whose rego I don't find) and:

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1889-004156
Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: LAMBERT
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 04/05/1889
Place of Birth: R.M. OF CORNWALLIS
Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: UNKNOWN Mother's Marital Status:
MOTHER'S DETAILS Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Given Names: JANE
[who presumably died before his 2nd b'day]

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1893-005923
Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: AGNES
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 24/02/1893
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Given Names: JANE

but then disaster:

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1894-002011
DECEASED DETAILS Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: WILLIAM Sex: MALE
Date of Death: 29/10/1894 Time of Death:
Place of Death: BRANDON
BIRTH DETAILS Date of Birth: Age At Death: 39 Units of age: YEARS

It looks likely that Jane returned to Yorkshire, taking all? her family with her (I've not foound Jane or Wm after 1891).


Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Dinsdale Hannah Settle 9a 15
Hick Edmund Hebert Settle 9a 15
Hick Edmund Herbert Settle 9a 15
>>Shepherd Jane Settle 9a 15
>>Swinbank Christopher Settle 9a 15

1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PV-91R
[Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4020/100 Page Number 9]
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PV-9TL
[Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4020/98 Page Number 6]
so just 3 pages away
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PJ-R2W
[Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4019/6 Page Number 4]
Francis is in Dent with his gran (& uncle)

Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)
SWINBANK Christopher 60 Settle 9a 7

1911 [head with her son]
First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Registration district Parish County
Jane Swinbank 1858 Yorks Cowgill Sedbergh Dent Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Frank Shepherd 1880 Westmorland Firbank Sedbergh Dent Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
[rg14/25710 - a Dent subdistrict piece # (for ED 1) in Sebergh RD]

Is this Frank marrying a possible cousin?
Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Lambert Margaret Sedburgh 9a 2
Shepherd Francis Sedbergh 9a 2

Hello Dea.

Thank you very much for your time.

You can see that death cert here, but it's not the one you are looking for:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/7a3d79f0-87db-49b3-9e10-e3922cf13518

Dea x

Could some one please give me the details shown on the:-

British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
NAME: Alice Maud Shepherd
BIRTH: year
DEATH: dd mm 1975 - city.

It would be much appreciated.

Hi Allan,
Yes, I suspect that it's too much of a coincidence not to be the same girl who married Robert Shepherd!

I see her sister Ella ( Salt) also lived in Canada.
They don't appear on any census returns because the Salt family emigrated in 1921 but they did travel back and forth to Reading a few tiimes

Hello GlasgowLass.

Yes that is my Alice on 1911 census. I think you have found the proof I needed.

Thank you very much for your help and time.

Hello MargaretM.

That tree on Ancestry is all wrong. It states born 1894 Heckfield but the 1901/11 census saved is for a person born 1894 Surrey. I have added a comment on his tree pointing this out.

Allan,
I think I've found the answer.
Is this your Alice at 1911?

63 Grange Avenue, Reading, Berks
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Biscuit Factory Employee *****

Household:
Percival Charles Brooker 23
Florence Maud Brooker 23
Alice Maud Stacey 19 ****


Alice who emigrated to Canada in 1912 was a Biscuit Packer but was bound for Cypress River, Manitoba and intended to go into Domestic service.
As showing , Alice in Reading at 1911 was a biscuit packer

Alice travelled with another girl, also a biscuit packer named Florence Hookway.
This is Florence in the same area of Reading at 1911 and was travelling to Canada to be married.

29 Belmont Road, Reading
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Biscuit Packer *****

William Hookway 45
Margaret Hookway 43
Florence Hookway 17 b Neath ****
Rosemond Hookway 15
Kate May Hookway 10
Albert Hookway 7
Harry Hookway 5

Florence Hookway married in Ontario in 1913

Hello Maddie.

Found the site. $12 for more details plus postage.

A tree on Ancestry gives her place of birth as Heckfield, Southampton and her mother's name as Florence Stacey.

Thanks all of you for the information and for your help and time.

I am not certain if its the Alice I am looking for. I had hoped it said place of birth in England and the fathers name.

The marriage GlasgowLass mentioned is not mine. The certificate is on Ancestry.

alan.

????
Alice Shepherd

in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
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Report issue

Name: Alice Shepherd
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Est. Birth Year: 1892
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Home in 1916: 12, Macdonald, Manitoba
Address: 6, 13, W, Argyle
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd
Sub District Desc.: Townships 5 and 6, ranges 12 and 13, W.P.M.
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Shepherd 34
Alice Shepherd 24
Chester Shepherd 0
Edgar Strain 20


Alice Maud Stacey

in the Web: Manitoba, Marriage Index, 1879-1931

Report issue

Name: Alice Maud Stacey
Gender: Female
Spouse: Robert Shepherd
Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1914
Marriage Place: Victoria, Manitoba, Canada
URL:


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Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Grisby Daisy E Savage Kingston 2a 1163
Savage Henry A Grisby Kingston 2a 1163
Seaward Arthur R Stacey Kingston 2a 1163
Stacey Alice M M Seaward Kingston 2a 1163

It doesn't have anything other than the entry ,but this looks a possble

Alice Shepherd
in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
Name: Alice Shepherd
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Est. Birth Year: 1892
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Home in 1916: 12, Macdonald, Manitoba
Address: 6, 13, W, Argyle
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd
Sub District Desc.: Townships 5 and 6, ranges 12 and 13, W.P.M.
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Shepherd 34
Alice Shepherd 24
Chester Shepherd 0
Edgar Strain 20

Allan,
There is also a girl named Alice Maud Mary Stacey who married Arthur Roland Seaward in 1915.
I'm not good with English counties but they married in Norbiton and lived in New Malden

EDIT:
Found her.
Her father's name was Thomas and mother was Florence


The Canadian one looks right.
Your Alice had sister named Ella and Alice in Canada also had a daughter named Ella

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Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

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First name(s) ALICE
Last name STACY
Title MISS
Gender Female
Age 18
Birth year 1894
Occupation DOMESTIC
Departure year 1912
Departure day 10
Departure month 7
Departure port BRISTOL
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name ROYAL GEORGE
Ship official number 125643
Ship master's first name JAMES
Ship master's last name HARRISON
Shipping line ROYAL LINE
City BRISTOL
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 15283
Ship registered tonnage 5685
Number of passengers 1101
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States & Canada

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Alice Shepherd
Canada Census, 1916
Name Alice Shepherd
Event Type Census
Event Date 1916
Event Place Manitoba, Canada
Gender Female
Age 24
Marital Status Married
Ethnicity English
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birthplace England
Birth Year (Estimated) 1892
Immigration Year 1912
Township 6
Province Manitoba
District Number 04 Macdonald
Sub-District Number 12
Page 32
Affiliate Film Number T-21927
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Robert Shepherd Self M 34y England
Alice Shepherd Wife F 24y England
Chester Shepherd Son M 9m Manitoba
Edgar Strain Servant M 20y Ontario
Citing this Record

"Canada Census, 1916," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMGV-4GF : 5 November 2014), Alice Shepherd in household of Robert Shepherd, Manitoba, Canada; citing p. 32, line 8; Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 2,434,942.