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Alan
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7 Dec 2016 10:31 |
Could some one please give me the details of the this marriage:-
Web: Manitoba, Marriage Index, 1879-1931 NAME: Alice Maud Stacey SPOUSE: Robert Shepherd MARRIAGE: 30 Nov 1914 - Victoria, Manitoba, Canada.
I have a Alice Maud Mary Stacey born 14 March 1892 Heckfield Hants. Fathers name Samual.
As I can find no trace of Alice after the 1911 census I was hoping this might be her.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Alan.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Dec 2016 10:48 |
Have you looked to see if she is on the passenger lists
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GlasgowLass
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7 Dec 2016 10:50 |
marrige index only Allan, but...
Miss Alice Stacy arrived in Canada aboard The Royal George on 7 Jul 1912 departing Bristol. She was a a domestic servant and her destination was Manitoba. Marriage as above.
1921:Alice Shepherd Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 29 Birth Year: abt 1892 Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd Father Birth Place: England Mother Birth Place: England Year of Immigration: 1912 Racial or Tribal Origin: English Province or Territory: Manitoba District: Macdonald
Robert Shepherd 39 B England Alice Shepherd 29 Chester Shepherd 6 Ella Shepherd 5 Frank Shepherd 4 Olive Shepherd 1
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7 Dec 2016 10:53 |
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Alice Shepherd Canada Census, 1916 Name Alice Shepherd Event Type Census Event Date 1916 Event Place Manitoba, Canada Gender Female Age 24 Marital Status Married Ethnicity English Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birthplace England Birth Year (Estimated) 1892 Immigration Year 1912 Township 6 Province Manitoba District Number 04 Macdonald Sub-District Number 12 Page 32 Affiliate Film Number T-21927 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Robert Shepherd Self M 34y England Alice Shepherd Wife F 24y England Chester Shepherd Son M 9m Manitoba Edgar Strain Servant M 20y Ontario Citing this Record
"Canada Census, 1916," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMGV-4GF : 5 November 2014), Alice Shepherd in household of Robert Shepherd, Manitoba, Canada; citing p. 32, line 8; Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 2,434,942.
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7 Dec 2016 10:54 |
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Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) ALICE Last name STACY Title MISS Gender Female Age 18 Birth year 1894 Occupation DOMESTIC Departure year 1912 Departure day 10 Departure month 7 Departure port BRISTOL Destination port MONTREAL Destination MONTREAL Country CANADA Destination country CANADA Ship name ROYAL GEORGE Ship official number 125643 Ship master's first name JAMES Ship master's last name HARRISON Shipping line ROYAL LINE City BRISTOL Ship destination port MONTREAL Ship destination country CANADA Ship square feet 15283 Ship registered tonnage 5685 Number of passengers 1101 Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger lists Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States & Canada
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GlasgowLass
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7 Dec 2016 11:04 |
Allan, There is also a girl named Alice Maud Mary Stacey who married Arthur Roland Seaward in 1915. I'm not good with English counties but they married in Norbiton and lived in New Malden
EDIT: Found her. Her father's name was Thomas and mother was Florence
The Canadian one looks right. Your Alice had sister named Ella and Alice in Canada also had a daughter named Ella
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Dec 2016 11:07 |
It doesn't have anything other than the entry ,but this looks a possble
Alice Shepherd in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta Name: Alice Shepherd Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 24 Est. Birth Year: 1892 Birthplace: England Year of Immigration: 1912 Home in 1916: 12, Macdonald, Manitoba Address: 6, 13, W, Argyle Racial or Tribal Origin: English Relation to Head of Household: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd Sub District Desc.: Townships 5 and 6, ranges 12 and 13, W.P.M. Household Members: Name Age Robert Shepherd 34 Alice Shepherd 24 Chester Shepherd 0 Edgar Strain 20
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7 Dec 2016 11:07 |
Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%) Grisby Daisy E Savage Kingston 2a 1163 Savage Henry A Grisby Kingston 2a 1163 Seaward Arthur R Stacey Kingston 2a 1163 Stacey Alice M M Seaward Kingston 2a 1163
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7 Dec 2016 11:09 |
???? Alice Shepherd
in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta Record Image View
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Name: Alice Shepherd Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 24 Est. Birth Year: 1892 Birthplace: England Year of Immigration: 1912 Home in 1916: 12, Macdonald, Manitoba Address: 6, 13, W, Argyle Racial or Tribal Origin: English Relation to Head of Household: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd Sub District Desc.: Townships 5 and 6, ranges 12 and 13, W.P.M. Household Members: Name Age Robert Shepherd 34 Alice Shepherd 24 Chester Shepherd 0 Edgar Strain 20
Alice Maud Stacey
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Name: Alice Maud Stacey Gender: Female Spouse: Robert Shepherd Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1914 Marriage Place: Victoria, Manitoba, Canada URL:
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Alan
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7 Dec 2016 11:23 |
Thanks all of you for the information and for your help and time.
I am not certain if its the Alice I am looking for. I had hoped it said place of birth in England and the fathers name.
The marriage GlasgowLass mentioned is not mine. The certificate is on Ancestry.
alan.
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MargaretM
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7 Dec 2016 11:38 |
A tree on Ancestry gives her place of birth as Heckfield, Southampton and her mother's name as Florence Stacey.
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Alan
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7 Dec 2016 11:43 |
Hello Maddie.
Found the site. $12 for more details plus postage.
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GlasgowLass
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7 Dec 2016 11:45 |
Allan, I think I've found the answer. Is this your Alice at 1911?
63 Grange Avenue, Reading, Berks Marital Status: Single Occupation: Biscuit Factory Employee *****
Household: Percival Charles Brooker 23 Florence Maud Brooker 23 Alice Maud Stacey 19 ****
Alice who emigrated to Canada in 1912 was a Biscuit Packer but was bound for Cypress River, Manitoba and intended to go into Domestic service. As showing , Alice in Reading at 1911 was a biscuit packer
Alice travelled with another girl, also a biscuit packer named Florence Hookway. This is Florence in the same area of Reading at 1911 and was travelling to Canada to be married.
29 Belmont Road, Reading Marital Status: Single Occupation: Biscuit Packer *****
William Hookway 45 Margaret Hookway 43 Florence Hookway 17 b Neath **** Rosemond Hookway 15 Kate May Hookway 10 Albert Hookway 7 Harry Hookway 5
Florence Hookway married in Ontario in 1913
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Alan
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7 Dec 2016 12:00 |
Hello MargaretM.
That tree on Ancestry is all wrong. It states born 1894 Heckfield but the 1901/11 census saved is for a person born 1894 Surrey. I have added a comment on his tree pointing this out.
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Alan
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7 Dec 2016 12:19 |
Hello GlasgowLass.
Yes that is my Alice on 1911 census. I think you have found the proof I needed.
Thank you very much for your help and time.
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GlasgowLass
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7 Dec 2016 12:27 |
Hi Allan, Yes, I suspect that it's too much of a coincidence not to be the same girl who married Robert Shepherd!
I see her sister Ella ( Salt) also lived in Canada. They don't appear on any census returns because the Salt family emigrated in 1921 but they did travel back and forth to Reading a few tiimes
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Alan
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8 Dec 2016 11:19 |
Could some one please give me the details shown on the:-
British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990 NAME: Alice Maud Shepherd BIRTH: year DEATH: dd mm 1975 - city.
It would be much appreciated.
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Dea
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8 Dec 2016 11:28 |
You can see that death cert here, but it's not the one you are looking for:
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/7a3d79f0-87db-49b3-9e10-e3922cf13518
Dea x
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Alan
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8 Dec 2016 11:38 |
Hello Dea.
Thank you very much for your time.
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12 Dec 2016 21:55 |
GlasgowLass gave the 1921 census for Alice - I'm going to focus on Robt here
Looking more at 1921 Robt City, Town or Village: Victoria Municipality Street or Township: 18 7 12W 1 Municipality: Victoria Robert Shepherd 68 [39] - actually says age 38, immig 1888, Farmer etc I've sent Alan the image 1921_023-E002882119.jpg by pm
Now here's an 1888 immigrant family: Ship:POLYNESIAN Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Londonderry, Ireland Date of Departure: 1888-03-29 1888-03 Port of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. Baltimore, MD Date of Arrival: 1888-04-07 1888-04 Year:1888 Microfilm Reel Number:C-4513 Remarks: List Number: 37 Reference:RG 76 Item Number:7760
Ancestry gives: Name Birth Year Date of Arrival Port of Arrival Port of Departure Vessel View Images Wm Shepherd abt 1858 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Jane Shepherd abt 1859 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Jane Shepherd abt 1877 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Wm Shepherd abt 1878 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Francis Shepherd abt 1880 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Robt Shepherd abt 1882 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Betsy Shepherd abt 1884 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Thomas Shepherd abt 1885 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian Radish Shepherd 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian [There's a correction note giving Obadiah for Radish] http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003674460.jpg The family is headed for Brandon MB
There's another Shepherd on the ship - a Mach headed for Winnipeg, but I don't see any connection to Robt. Chas H Shepherd abt 1867 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003674456.jpg
Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%) Lambert Jane Sedbergh 9a 1 Shepherd William Sedbergh 9a 1
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: SHEPHERD, WILLIAM MOOR Order GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5
LAMBERT, JANE BIRKBECK Order GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5
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SHEPHERD, JANE LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 4 Occasional Copy: A
SHEPHERD, WILLIAM LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5
SHEPHERD, DOROTHY LAMBERT LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 713 -- Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%) SHEPHERD Dorothy Lambert 2 E.Ward 10b 392
SHEPHERD, FRANCIS LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 661
SHEPHERD, ROBERT LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 670
SHEPHERD, BETSY LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 681
SHEPHERD, THOMAS LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 657
SHEPHERD, OBADIAH LAMBERT Order GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 681
Here they are in 1881: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-L1YJ [The 2 older kids are with grandparents]
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-WHC9 SHEPHERD, ROBERT MOOR Order GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 23 Page 631
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-WWXQ Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%) Bentham Robert Sedbergh 9a 1 BIRBECK Dorothy Sedbergh 9a 1 Capstick Margaret Sedbergh 9a 1 Lambert Francis Sedbergh 9a 1
Dent was a civil parish and subdistrict in Sedbergh RD. This RD was in the W Riding, but taken over by Kendal RD in 1974.
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1891 Here they are in 1891 Surname: Shephard Given Name(s): Jane Age: 33 Province: Manitoba District Name: Selkirk Sub-District Name: Brandon (City) http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148097-00055
They have 3 more kids - Christopher (whose rego I don't find) and:
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1889-004156 Last Name: SHEPHERD Given Names: LAMBERT Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 04/05/1889 Place of Birth: R.M. OF CORNWALLIS Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: UNKNOWN Mother's Marital Status: MOTHER'S DETAILS Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Given Names: JANE [who presumably died before his 2nd b'day]
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1893-005923 Last Name: SHEPHERD Given Names: AGNES Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 24/02/1893 Place of Birth: BRANDON Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Given Names: JANE
but then disaster:
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1894-002011 DECEASED DETAILS Last Name: SHEPHERD Given Names: WILLIAM Sex: MALE Date of Death: 29/10/1894 Time of Death: Place of Death: BRANDON BIRTH DETAILS Date of Birth: Age At Death: 39 Units of age: YEARS
It looks likely that Jane returned to Yorkshire, taking all? her family with her (I've not foound Jane or Wm after 1891).
Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%) Dinsdale Hannah Settle 9a 15 Hick Edmund Hebert Settle 9a 15 Hick Edmund Herbert Settle 9a 15 >>Shepherd Jane Settle 9a 15 >>Swinbank Christopher Settle 9a 15
1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PV-91R [Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4020/100 Page Number 9] https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PV-9TL [Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4020/98 Page Number 6] so just 3 pages away https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PJ-R2W [Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4019/6 Page Number 4] Francis is in Dent with his gran (& uncle)
Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%) SWINBANK Christopher 60 Settle 9a 7
1911 [head with her son] First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Registration district Parish County Jane Swinbank 1858 Yorks Cowgill Sedbergh Dent Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Frank Shepherd 1880 Westmorland Firbank Sedbergh Dent Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) [rg14/25710 - a Dent subdistrict piece # (for ED 1) in Sebergh RD]
Is this Frank marrying a possible cousin? Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%) Lambert Margaret Sedburgh 9a 2 Shepherd Francis Sedbergh 9a 2
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