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9 Dec 2016 19:36 |
I wonder if anyone out there can help with the birth year and death year of the above. I'm told that Margaret was born in Preston Lancashire about 1850 and married Norman Woan at St Johns church Preston in 1871. Norman was born 1851 and died in 1933 in Preston. I don't know who Margaret's parents were. I have found several ways of spelling the surname Woan. Wone, whone, etc. But Woan is the correct one. Pat
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 Dec 2016 19:39 |
Well the marriage cert should name her father .if known
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9 Dec 2016 19:41 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 19, Skeffington Road South, Preston, Lancashire, England Norman Woan Head Married Male 49 1852 Engine Tenter (Cotton Mill) Preston, Lancashire, England Transcription Margaret Ann Woan Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Caton, Lancashire, England Transcription Margaret Woan Daughter Single Female 28 1873 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England Transcription Thos Woan Son Single Male 13 1888 Cloth Warehouse Man Preston, Lancashire, England Transcription Annie Woan Daughter Single Female 11. 1890. Preston lancs
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9 Dec 2016 19:45 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
WOANE Norman BUTTERWORTH Margaret Ann Preston, St John Preston 229/31/310
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
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9 Dec 2016 19:49 |
Record Image VIEW Order a Marriage Certificate for Norman Woane Search for Norman Woane in the UK Census Collection Search for Norman Woane in the London Times Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Norman Woane Registration Year: 1871 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Preston Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 761 Records on Page: Name
Margaret Ann Butterworth
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 Dec 2016 19:54 |
Caton comes under Lancaster reg district
First name(s) Margaret Ann Last name Butterworth Gender Female Birth year 1851 Birth place - Baptism year 1851 Baptism date 1851 Residence Lancaster, Lancashire, England Place Lancaster County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) Catharine Mother's last name Butterworth Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
First name(s) Margaret Ann Last name Butterworth Gender Female Birth year 1851 Birth place - Baptism year 1851 Baptism date 23 Nov 1851 Residence Lancaster, Lancashire, England Place Lancaster County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) Catharine Mother's last name Butterworth Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
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9 Dec 2016 19:57 |
(above one also on below)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
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Baptism County Lancashire Place Lancaster Church name St Mary the Priory Register type Parish Register Register entry number 2036 Baptism date 23 Nov 1851 Birth date 22 Oct 1851 Person forename Margaret Ann Person abode Quermore Mother forename Catharine Mother surname BUTTERWORTH Register note Mother a spinster
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851
BUTTERWORTH Margaret (Mother Maiden Name) BUTTERWORTH Caton Preston CAT/3/2
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9 Dec 2016 21:12 |
?? England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) MARGARET Last name WOAN Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1852 Age 70 Death quarter 1 Death year 1922 District PRESTON County Lancashire Volume 8E Page 887
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9 Dec 2016 21:20 |
?? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pattrendail Houses, 6, Park Side, Quernmore, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Butterworth Head Married Male 67 1794 Watchman In A Cotton Factory Quernmore, Lancashire, England Jane Butterworth Wife Married Female 57 1804 - Quernmore, Lancashire, England Margret Ann Butterworth Granddaughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Quernmore, Lancashire, England
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9 Dec 2016 21:21 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Paterndale House, Quernmore, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Butterworth Head Married Male 53 1798 Watcher At Mill Lancaster, Lancashire, England Jane Butterworth Wife Married Female 20 1831 Watcher At Mill Wife Lancaster, Lancashire, England <<<<<<<<<<actually says age 50 Hannah Butterworth Daughter Unmarried Female 24 1827 Mill Operative Cotton Quernmore, Lancashire, England Catherine Butterworth Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 Mill Operative Cotton Quernmore, Lancashire, England Margaret Butterworth Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Mill Operative Cotton Quernmore, Lancashire, England Henry Butterworth Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag Labourer Cotton Lancaster, Lancashire, England William Butterworth Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Ag Labourer Lancaster, Lancashire, England Jane Butterworth Daughter - Female 14 1837 Mill Operative Quernmore, Lancashire, England Ellen Lamblestone Lodger Unmarried Female 18 1833 Work At Cotton Mill Ingleton, Yorkshire, England
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9 Dec 2016 21:25 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Patdale, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place William Butterworth Male 52 1789 Lancashire, England (Watchman at cotton works) Jane Butterworth Female 40 1801 Lancashire, England Joseph Butterworth Male 18 1823 Lancashire, England Hannah Butterworth Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England Cathrine Butterworth Female 13 1828 Lancashire, England Mary Butterworth Female 11 1830 Lancashire, England Henry Butterworth Male 9 1832 Lancashire, England William Butterworth Male 6 1835 Lancashire, England Jane Butterworth Female 3 1838 Lancashire, England
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9 Dec 2016 21:29 |
?? William Butterworth mentioned in the record of William Butterworth and Jane Townley Name William Butterworth Spouse's Name Jane Townley Event Date 1823 Event Place St. Mary'S, Lancaster, Lancashire, England Citing this Record "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXYR-34N
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9 Dec 2016 21:34 |
Marriage of her Mother ?
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) CATHERINE Last name BUTTERWORTH Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1853 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ CATHERINE BUTTERWORTH married one of these people THOMAS BIRCH, JOHN HORMAN District LANCASTER District number - County Lancashire Country England Volume 8E Page 732
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First name(s) Catherine Last name Butterworth Name note - Marriage year 1853 Marriage date 24 Oct 1853 Marriage place Lancaster Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Butterworth Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Horman Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Horman County Lancashire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
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9 Dec 2016 21:49 |
Many thank for all your replies. Very helpful. It will take a while for me to digest it all. I wondered why I couldn't find her father. Now I know. Pat
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9 Dec 2016 23:13 |
I've looked at the 1841 and the 1851 but noticed that there is a considerable difference in the ages of all concerned. Will take some sorting. Pat
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10 Dec 2016 08:27 |
Perhaps better to get the 1871 Marriage Cert., to be sure of things!.
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10 Dec 2016 09:18 |
No father of the bride on marriage cert:
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Marriage: 27 May 1871 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England Norman Woane - 20, Porter, Bachelor, James St Margaret Ann Butterworth - (X), 19, Winder, Spinster, Front St Groom's Father: James Woane, Spinner Witness: John Beckett, (X); Elizabeth Matthews, (X) Married by Banns by: Edmund Lee, Curate Notes: [No father of bride listed] Register: Marriages 1870 - 1871, Page 155, Entry 310 Source: LDS Film 93999
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10 Dec 2016 09:26 |
Apart from William (who only appears to have gained a year) and the obvious 10 year age gap, there is only 1 years difference in the age between the people on the 1841 to 1851 census which is pretty good going. Especially considering that anyone over the age of 15 was supposed to have their age rounded down to the nearest 5 in 1841.
The names of the children read correctly in the same order with Mary in 1841 possibly actually reading Marg. and 18 year old Joseph no longer at home in 1851.
Both census on the original are taken in the Township of Quernmore with 1841 reading the place as Patdale where there appear to be only 30 people resident. 1851 reads the place as Patendale House. In 1841 William is a Watchman at a Cotton Works and in 1851 a Watcher at Mill.
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10 Dec 2016 12:47 |
Sorry I apologise about the age differences. I didn't have my thinking head on at the time and had forgotten there's 10 years between the censuses. Pat
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