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Hi.I am new to GR and I am trying to trace my great great great grandfathers parents.His name was George Fitton and he was born in Salford round 1818.But his parents wont be on the census because it doesnt go that far back.

hallo sunlight, welcome to the boards.
Do you have his marrriage certificate. That should name his father. Have you found George in any of the census

HI,

On your thread on General Chat (before you were redirected to this board as being more appropriate) you said that George was born c1807 in Salford, also on that thread you said he was born c 1804 Salford, now you're saying c1817.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1364124

Would you be able to give us details from the census(es) you found him in, or, as Maddie has suggested, details of his marriage, children etc, to give helpers something to work with?

Sunlight can you please give us the name of your Great Grandfather and where he was born and what year please?

We need to get some idea of how you reached George Fitton c1804/07/11/18 and the only way for us to help is to know what children he has and his wifes name if you know it.

Thank you.

The only George Fitton that I can see with a connection to Salford born around 1817 is this one but he can't be your ancestor as he died aged one:-

First name(s) George
Last name Fitton
Age 12M
Birth year 1817
Death year 1818
Death date 28 Aug 1818
Burial year 1818
Burial date 31 Aug 1818
Place Salford
Burial place as transcribed Bolton Street, Salford
Denomination New Jerusalemite Swedenborgian
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1284
Description LANCASHIRE: Salford, Bolton Street, Jerusalem Temple (New Jerusalemite): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-conformist burials

If you could answer some of the questions that you have been asked it will be easier for us to help you.

Which certificate have you got?
Which census have you found him in and where was he at that time?
Is there some confusion about when he was born as you have given 3 different years of birth?
Who did he marry and when?

Kath. x

Thank you all so much for your efforts trying to trace info about George Fittons parents.I can now confirm that he was born in 1801 and he married Elizabeth Sant from Winsford Cheshire.He then settled in Winsford and they had a lot of children.I live in Winsford as did the rest of my family, so there only seems to be George who had roots in Manchester.I found him on my family tree when I requested to view a tree which belonged to a relative of Elizabeth Sant, Georges wife. Hannah Fitton and William Fitton, also Sarah were the names of just a few of his children.

George Fitten
England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts
Name George Fitten
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 14 Jul 1819
Event Place Over, Cheshire, England
Gender Male
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Sant

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Over Lane, Over, Northwich, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
George Fitton Male 40 1801 Cheshire, England
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Elizabeth Fitton Female 35 1806 Cheshire, England
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Mary Fitton Female 12 1829 Cheshire, England
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Eliza Fitton Female 9 1832 Cheshire, England
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Hannah Fitton Female 6 1835 Cheshire, England

george is a flat man

Is this the family in 1851? Over is now part of Winsford.
The YOB for George is slightly out.

BUT his YOB varies:
1871 census says 1796, 1861 says 1816 but an Ancestry member has corrected it to 1796,


Elizabeth Fitton
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Fitton
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Fitton
Gender: Female
Where born: Over, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Over
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northwich
Sub-registration district: Over
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 2166
Folio: 110
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fitton 55 - born Salford 1799
Elizabeth Fitton 52
Martha Fitton 31
Hannah Fitton 16
William Fitton 26

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Over Lane, Over, Northwich, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Filson Head Married Male 55 1796 Waterman Salford, Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Filson Wife Married Female 52 1799 At Home Over, Cheshire, England
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Martha Filson Daughter Unmarried Female 31 1820 At Home Over, Cheshire, England
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Hannah Filson Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 At Home Over, Cheshire, England
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William Filson Son Unmarried Male 26 1825 Waterman Over, Cheshire, England

When you say he was born in 1801, do you mean born or christened - and do you have documentary proof?
On your other thread you said you have his birth cert - but presumably it's a baptism record.

Does it not give any names of parents? What exactly does it say, please?

He wasn't necessarily born in the year he was christened. He may have been born about 1796, as the majority of the censuses seem to suggest, but not christened until 1801:

Just a possibility:


George Fitton
England Births and Christenings
Name George Fitton
Gender Male
Christening Date 22 Feb 1801
Christening Place CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name Charles Fitton
Mother's Name Ann

No idea of things!, putting address on google search, brought below...

Chris :)

129 Over Lane
George Fitton H M 75 Labourer Salt Works Salford Lancashire
Elizabeth Fitton W M 70 Over Cheshire


http://www.bryanspink.talktalk.net/html/1871_over_lane_back.html

(Winsford Census 1871 - RG10/3698 - Over Lane\Over Lane Back - Page 2)


http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

(if anything relating on above link)


(and quite a bit Cheshire on Find My Past, has images)


FITTEN GEORGE — 1819 Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts marriages 1576-1906 Over, Cheshire, England (Elizabeth Sant)


http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

(if anything on above link, Lancs)


http://www.boatfamilies.website/familygroup.php?familyID=F7276&tree=CanalFamily1

(also from google)

Thanks all.Yes the info that u have all found def sounds like my relative George Fitton. So pleased to feel that im getting somewhere.Like u say there is different birth dates for him, but when I looked him up on the census it said 1801, and thats the date that was given when I asked Elizabeth Sants relative permission to view her tree.He definatly had children called William, Eliza and Hannah because I saw them on the tree that I was viewing and I saw on the census that he lived in Over Lane Winsford. Thanks Argyllgran for suggesting that Charles and Anne could be his parents that im trying to trace.I will follow that lead up.

Thanks all.Yes the info that u have all found def sounds like my relative George Fitton. So pleased to feel that im getting somewhere.Like u say there is different birth dates for him, but when I looked him up on the census it said 1801, and thats the date that was given when I asked Elizabeth Sants relative permission to view her tree.He definatly had children called William, Eliza and Hannah because I saw them on the tree that I was viewing and I saw on the census that he lived in Over Lane Winsford. Thanks Argyllgran for suggesting that Charles and Anne could be his parents that im trying to trace.I will follow that lead up.

There's also this Christening at Widness to a William and Ellen. Beings at it was 1st February he could have been born in 1799.

Name: George Fitton
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1801
Parish: Farnworth, Lancashire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View this parish
Father's name: Wm Fitton
Mother's name: Ellen Fitton
Register Type: Bishops Transcripts
Reference Number: Drl 2/391

I think George may have married again at the ripe old age of 74 a Widower himself and marrying a widow Elizabeth Gandy 72.

His father is down as James Fitton a Gardener, her father is Phillip Littler a carpenter.

Both made thier mark.

His address 7 New St Hulme and hers 4 New St Hulme.

Name: George Fitton
Birth Year: abt 1801
Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1875
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: James Fitton
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gandy
Spouse's Father's Name: Philip Littler
Archive Roll: 742

Hannah Fitton

England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900
christening:
23 September 1834
Over, Cheshire, England
residence:
23 September 1834
, Over, Cheshire, England
father:
George Fitton
mother:
Elizabeth

Don't know if this may help. Its Martha's marriage to William Aspinall.

Name William Aspinall
Event Type Intended Marriage
Event Date 30 Sep 1855
Event Place , , Cheshire, England
Gender Male
Age (Formatted) 29y
Marital Status Single
Father's Name John Aspinall
Spouse's Name Martha Fitton
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Father's Name George Fitton

Thanks Mel fairy godmother for all the info.Yes ive seen where Martha married a James Aspinall.Ive found all the children and their partners.Thanks also to Chris for the info.Im useing it and finding it quite helpful.