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9 Feb 2017 18:27 |
Failure to rego a birth carried no penalty until 1875, so sometimes you trally have to rely more on the census. Even after 1875, all the law required was that you rego the birth within 6 wks, not that you name the child.
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27X-2YKZ Event Place Westbury Upon Trym, Gloucestershire, England Registration District Barton Regis Residence Note Lamplighters Rd Occupation Gen Servant William Matthews Head M 58 Bedminster, Somerset, England Ella Matthews Wife F 67 Ashford Capbonal, Herefordshire, England Rebecca Hancock Servant F 22 Tockington, Gloucestershire, England
Deaths Mar 1893 (>99%) Hancock Eliza 80 Thornbury 6a 146
1891 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WBGJ-M2M Residence Note Tockington Village Thomas Hancock Head M 77 Gloucestershire, England Eliza Hancock Wife F 78 Gloucestershire, England
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27X-GD8X Residence Note Tockington Village Occupation General Labourer Thos Hancock Head M 66 Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Eliza Hancock Wife F 67 Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Charlot Hancock Daughter F 17 Olveston, Gloucestershire, England
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5RZ-H1S Event Place Tockington, Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Thomas Hancock Head M 56 Olveston, Gloucestershire Eliza Hancock Wife F 50 Olveston, Gloucestershire Rebecca Hancock Daughter F 13 Olveston, Gloucestershire
1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7KT-TYB Event Place Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Registration District Thornbury Residence Note Tockington Road Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 1747 / 117 Page Number 8 Thomas Hancock Head M 46 Olveston, Gloucestershire Eliza Hancock Wife F 46 Olveston, Gloucestershire Jane Hancock Daughter F 20 Olveston, Gloucestershire Mark Hancock Son M 18 Olveston, Gloucestershire Mary Hancock Daughter F 8 Olveston, Gloucestershire Sarah Hancock Daughter F 6 Olveston, Gloucestershire Rebecca Hancock Daughter F 3 Olveston, Gloucestershire
1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGKG-JV3 Thomas Handcock Head M 36 Olveston, Gloucestershire Eliza Handcock Wife F 36 Olveston, Gloucestershire Jane Handcock Daughter F 10 Olveston, Gloucestershire Mark Handcock Son M 8 Olveston, Gloucestershire Luke Handcock Son M 6 Olveston, Gloucestershire Eliza Handcock Daughter F 4 Olveston, Gloucestershire George Handcock Son M 2 Olveston, Gloucestershire Mary A Handcock Daughter F 0 Olveston, Gloucestershire
Olveston http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/68118 Subject Location ST 600 872 [100m precision]
Tockington http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1818124 Subject Location ST 6087 8655 [10m precision]
Aust http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3901847 Subject Location ST 5612 8925 [10m precision]
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9 Feb 2017 18:26 |
One major tool thru to the 1970s is the GRO index via: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
This has recently been supplemented with: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp Order Certificates Online and search the GRO historic birth and death indexes [historic = thru 1915]. You have to rego first - it's free. This gives the mum's maiden surname pre-1912, and the age at death pre-1866.
You should also supplement this with the local index, if one is available - see: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd Of interest is http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ for Gloucs (excluding the Bristol area) and also http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/ for Wilts (excluding Swindon).
The local offices has to organize their certs differently from the GRO, so they use a difft ref. This ref gives the subdistrict a B or D was rego'ed in, and the church/rego office that had the official marr register. Usually this info is given in the ref in code. Also, usually the last element in a local marr ref is an entry #, not a page #, so one knows who wed whom pre-1912.
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Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%) Burden Charles Bristol 6a 47 HANCOCK Rebecca Bristol 6a 47 HARDING Eliza Bristol 6a 47 Latham James Bristol 6a 47
Here's Sarah with her 8 siblings:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: LATHAM, THOMAS HANCOCK HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 220
LATHAM, BENJAMIN JAMES HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 199
LATHAM, GEORGE HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 210
LATHAM, MARGARET HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 223
LATHAM, ALICE HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 230
LATHAM, ANNIE HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 228
LATHAM, SARAH HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 203
LATHAM, WILLIAM HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 261
LATHAM, WINIFRED HANCOCK Order GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 268
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDK-5S6 1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFNB-LRJ 1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q278-KXK6
We can look up on WiltsBMD: LATHAM, JAMES CLARIDGE Order GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in MALMSBURY Volume 05A Page 40
Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference 1859 LATHAM Benjamin CLARIDGE Malmesbury East History Centre ME/10/377 1861 LATHAM Mary J CLARIDGE Malmesbury East History Centre ME/11/450 1863 LATHAM James CLARIDGE Malmesbury East History Centre ME/12/363 1876 LATHAM Margaret A CLARIDGE Christian Malford History Centre CM/7/445
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) Claridge Sarah Stroud 6a 592 Creed Henry Stroud 6a 592 Latham James Stroud 6a 592 Ockford Mary Ann Stroud 6a 592
Criteria entered: Groom Surname: latham, District: Stroud, Parish: Minchinhampton, Building: Holy Trinity, Year From: 1854, Year To: 1854, Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename Register Entry LATHAM James CLARIDGE Sarah C23/1 217
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Criteria entered: Surname: latham, Year From: 1855, Year To: 1855, District: Stroud, Office: Stroud, Minchinhampton, Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Register Entry LATHAM William CLARIDGE 5 283
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http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ have recently changed their output format for the worse. Index coverage on home page gives options, but no links, so it's a bother to use them. By comparison, South Tyneside has a "Marriage Indexes" link, which decodes the reference on a search hit like:
22/04/1844 SMITH, John REYNOLDS, Isabella C F3 247
as CF = St Hilda, South Shields South Tyneside decodes the registration subdistrict on the hit for Bs and Ds WiltsBMD decodes the church code (as well as B/D subdistrict) on the hit North Tyneside doesn't decode their church nor subdistrict ref, e.g.
SMITH, Mary Year of Birth: 1843 Register Book, Entry Number: E4, 218
A number of sub-districts have, at various periods, made up the Tynemouth Registration District over the years. These are: Tynemouth, Tynemouth First, Tynemouth Second, Wallsend, Earsdon, Whitley plus Blyth and Cramlington (now held at Morpeth) and Longbenton (now held at Newcastle).
So it's easy to guess code E stands for Earsdon.(E4 indicates it's the 4th Earsdon birth register).
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7 Feb 2017 18:47 |
Happy researching Brenda.
Prickles. :-)
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7 Feb 2017 18:25 |
Ooooooo thank you all looks promising Brenda
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7 Feb 2017 16:55 |
William Lathem
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 View Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 Name: William Lathem Gender: Male Marriage Date: 13 Sep 1811 Spouse: Jane Wein Event Type: Marriage Parish: Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire Register Type: Parish Registers
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7 Feb 2017 16:39 |
James Weare Latham
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1913 View Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1913
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Name: James Weare Latham Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1828 Parish: Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire, England Parish as it Appears: Minchinhampton Father: William Latham Mother: Jane Latham Register Type: Parish Registers
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tetbury Street, Minchinhampton, Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Latham Head Married Male 64 1787 Lath Cleaver Gloucestershire, England Transcription Mary Latham Wife Married Female 60 1791 Wool Picker Gloucestershire, England Transcription James Latham Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Lath Cleaver Gloucestershire, England
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7 Feb 2017 16:34 |
Sarah's father James on the 1939 Register......
James Latham on the 1939 Register
Latham Household (3 People) No 2 Bilsham Cottages , Thornbury R.D., Gloucestershire, England
James Latham 25 Jul 1863 Male Cowman Retired Widowed 2 1 Leonard (H G) Latham 05 Sep 1912 Male Carter Farm Single 2 2 Winifred Robbins (Steele) 25 Sep 1919 Female - Single 2 3
(Winifred Robbins doesn't actually show on the image.......after Leonard, there is One Closed Record)
This is actually the birth of Leonard H G Latham...
Henry L G Latham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Henry L G Latham Mother's Maiden Name: Latham Registration Year: 1912 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Thornbury Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 425
You would need a copy of his birth cert to find out who he belongs to.
Leonard Henry G Latham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Leonard Henry G Latham Birth Date: 5 Sep 1912 Date of Registration: Aug 1985 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 22 Page: 1003
That should get you started......if you need further help, you can always get back to us.
Prickles. :-)
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7 Feb 2017 16:27 |
Well, she didn't come from Australia!
LATHAM, SARAH HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in THORNBURY Volume 06A Page 203
Sarah Latham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Sarah Latham Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Thornbury Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 203
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7 Feb 2017 16:25 |
James Latham
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 View Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
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Name: James Latham Gender: Male Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1854 Age: Full Age Spouse: Sarah Claridge Father: William Latham Event Type: Marriage Parish: Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
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7 Feb 2017 16:23 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census TranscriptionBilsham, Olveston, Gloucestershire, England James Latham Father Married Male Farm Labourer 47 1864 Wilts Transcription Rebecca Latham Mather Married Female - 52 1859 Tackington Glos Transcription Sarah Latham Daughter - Female - 13 1898 Inst Glos Transcription William Latham Son - Male - 11 1900 Inst Glos Transcription Winifred Latham Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Inst Glos
(James and Rebecca married 26 years.....9 children born and living)
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7 Feb 2017 16:20 |
Sarah Latham in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 Name: Sarah Latham Baptism Date: 30 Oct 1898 Baptism Place: Olveston, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England Father: James Latham Mother: Rebecca Latham
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7 Feb 2017 16:20 |
James Latham
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Name: James Latham Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Marriage Date: 19 Jan 1885 Marriage Place: Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square, Gloucestershire, England Father: James Latham Spouse: Rebecca Hancock
Name: James Latham Birth Date: abt 1864 Date of Registration: Mar 1941 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Thornbury Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 724
1871 Name: James Latham Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Father's name: James Latham Mother's name: Sarah Latham Gender: Male Where born: Somerford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Kingston Langley Ecclesiastical parish: Langley Fitzurse Town: Kingston Langley County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Chippenham Sub-registration district: Christian Malford ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 15 Piece: 1900 Folio: 23 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age James Latham 30 Sarah Latham 36 William Latham 15 Benjamin Latham 12 Mary J Latham 9 James Latham 7
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7 Feb 2017 16:15 |
Sarah Pitman on the 1939 Register Pitman Household (5 People) 5 Council House East Field Lane , Thornbury R.D., Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Pitman 12 Sep 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 233 2 William (James) Pitman 10 Nov 1891 Male General Labourer Married 233 1 William J Pitman 28 Jun 1920 Male General Labourer Single 233 3 Edna W Latham (Pitman) 07 Jun 1922 Female Seeking Work - 233 4 Donald Pitman 30 Jul 1924 Male General Farm Labourer Single 233 5 (5 closed Records)
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7 Feb 2017 16:15 |
Sarah Latham
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Name: Sarah Latham Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Marriage Date: 20 Dec 1917 Marriage Place: Pilning, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father: James Latham Spouse: William Pitman
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7 Feb 2017 16:12 |
1901 England Census View Image View Record 1901
Name Sarah Latham Age 2 Estimated Birth Year abt 1899 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Father James Latham Mother Rebecca Latham Birth Place Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish Olveston Search Photos Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Ecclesiastical parish Olveston St Mary Town Ings County/Island Gloucestershire Country England Registration district Thornbury Sub-registration district Almondsbury ED, institution, or vessel 7 Piece 2411 Folio 78 Page number 2 Household schedule number 9 Household Members Name Age James Latham 38 Rebecca Latham 42 George Latham 12 Margeret Latham 10 Alice Latham 8 Annie Latham 6 Sarah Latham 2 William Latham 5/12 Beatrice Latham 5
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7 Feb 2017 16:11 |
Hi Brenda
Sarah Latham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Sarah Latham Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917 Registration district: Thornbury Inferred County: Gloucestershire Spouse: William Pitman Volume Number: 6a Page Number: 561
Sarah Latham in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 Name: Sarah Latham Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Marriage Date: 20 Dec 1917 Marriage Place: Pilning, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father: James Latham Spouse: William Pitman Spouse Father: Henry Pitman
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7 Feb 2017 16:07 |
Trying to trace ancestors of Sarah Latham, I Believe came from Aust, Thornbury area. Married William Pitman, had several children, one was my Brother in Law. Can you help please.
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