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Thanks Dea

So it looks like I meed to go for the death in 1865 in Glanford Brigg. If I give the registry enough information they are usually pretty good and will phone me if it is wrong. Then I will have to go for that death in Thorne.

all the best

Jane

Ages for those two deaths:


Results:
Name: Age at Death (in years):

GRAY, WILLIAM 66 Order
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 331

GRAY, WILLIAM 3 Order
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 474

So, it looks like the 1865 one is more likely.

Dea x

Hi PricklyHolly

Sorry I didn't get back to yesterday. I was a bit sore after that hospital visit. Thankfully everything is ok.

Thank you so much for all that information you gave me on William. I can now confidently add him to my tree. I think I will send for his death cert to see what he died of.

All the best

Jane

Where was the birth register for the William Gray born 1861?

The only one born 1861 with MMN Walker is this one......

??
Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
GRAY William Goole 9c 487

GRAY, WILLIAM MMN WALKER ****
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in GOOLE UNION Volume 09C Page 487

I see John and Hannah are in the registration district of "Goole" on the 1861 census

John Gray in the 1861 England Census
Name: John Gray
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Barton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Armin ****
Town: Armin ****
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole

John Gray 28
Hannah Gray 28
James Gray 3
Mary Ann Gray 4


Mary Ann Gray in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mary Ann Gray
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 7 Dec 1856
Baptism Place: Rawcliffe By Goole,York,England
Father: John Gray
Mother: Hannah


I see John and Hannah are in the registration district of Glanford Grigg on the 1871 census........

Transcribed as Guy

John Guy in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Guy
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Guy
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Crosby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Winterton

John Guy 37
Hannah Guy 37
Mary Ann Guy 14
James Guy 13

I see the 1869 death you are referring to in Thorne.

Deaths Mar 1869 (>99%)
Gray William 8 Thorne 9c 430

Wondering about this one ......(No age given though!)

??
Deaths Mar 1865 (>99%)
GRAY William Glanford B 7a 474

There is also this earlier death.....

Deaths Sep 1862 (>99%)
Gray William Glanford. B 7a 331

Ah, just found William's baptism record......

William Gray in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: William Gray
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 8 Sep 1861
Baptism Place: Airmin, York, England
Father: John Gray
Mother: Hannah

So it seems he was baptised in Aimin, Yorkshire and his birth was later registered in Goole, Lincolnshire the following quarter.

Prickles. x

Dinah Elizabeth Gray in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Dinah Elizabeth Gray
Death Date: 21 Apr 1923
Death Place: Lincolnshire, England
Probate Date: 30 Apr 1923
Registry: Lincoln

Of Barrow-on-Humber, Lincolnshire widow.

To Richard Hudson solicitor.....Effects: £204 9s

sorry I have to go to Hospital now so I will pop in gain when I get back.

Thank you all for helping me

Jane

Thank you Chris

That information you found seems to be correct. No there is no link to a travelling family.

I didn't have a baptism or death fro her so thank you for giving me that information.

thanks again

Jane

Thank you Andy

William knight was from her first marriage.

I have a possible son called William Gray b1861 -died 1869. This was from Johns' first marriage. John being her husbands name.

John Grays first marriage was to Hannah Walker. It was a long shot but I was just trying to prove that William was John and Hannah's son. I was hoping that Dinah would acknowledge William on the 1911 census as a dead child.

Well there was no harm in trying.

Thanks again

Jane

https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-16366.html

(not relating to Traveller/Romany on above are they?)

Chris :)

Edits (if her below)

County Lincolnshire
Place Barton on Humber
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 1348
Burial date 24 Apr 1923
Person age 76
Burial person forename Dinah Elizabeth
Burial person surname GRAY
Burial person abode Haven Road, Barrow-on-Humber


Place Ulceby by Barton
Church name St Nicholas
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 711
Baptism date 26 Sep 1847
Person forename Dinah Elizabeth
Person abode Ulceby
Father forename William
Father surname HEWITT
Father occupation Shepherd
Mother forename Sarah


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Wrawby
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 20 Sep 1874
Person forename William John Thomas
Person abode Wrawby
Father forename Thomas
Father surname KNIGHT
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Dinah Elizabeth

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Gray John Thorne 9c 1299
Knight Dinah Elizabeth Thorne 9c 1299


Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)
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Hewitt Dinah Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 189
Knight Thomas Sculcoates 9d 189


Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869

KNIGHT Thomas HEWITH Dinah E St Marks Hull HMK/2/183

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Thank you PrcklyHolly

I though it might say that. This was a second marriage for her. although she had children from her first marriage it appears she didn't have any from the second marriage.

thanks for your help

Jane

William Knight is shown as 'Son'


1901?

John Gray 65
Elizabeth Gray 54
William Knight 26
Ada Knight 17


1891?

Elizabeth Knight 45
Sarah Knight 20
William Knight 16
Ada Knight 7




Andy

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King St East Halton Grimsby, East Halton, Lincolnshire, England

Dinah Gray Head Widow Female - 63 1848 Ulceby Lincs
William Knight Son Single Male Farm Labourer 35 1876 Wraby Lincs

Children.......None

Please can you take a look at this 1911 census and see how many children they had. Thanks

1911 census

Name Dinah Gray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lincolnshire
Parish East Halton
Sub-District Barton
Registration District Glanford BDinah Gray
rigg
Gender Female
Birthplace Ulceby, Lincolnshire
Record Type Household

Oh I seem to have lost the information from the bottom of my census. I have just checked my notes and its not there either. Could someone find another copy of this census for me Please.

Jane