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Hi

I wonder if anyone can assist me please?

My adoptive mother was Anna Dorothea Martin Kelly and her mother was Elizabeth Matier Thomson (Banbridge 1888) and father David Martin Kelly (Newtownards).

On Findmypast I found two possible siblings, but cannot find any further information for them to ascertain if they are siblings or cousins.

One is Noel Kirker Kelly 1913 Newtownards, possibly a cousin, but hopefully a sibling. I have his birth details so I can order a certificate if nobody can assist.
His death is on Ancestry.co.uk

The other is Mary Martin Kelly, born 1921 Newtownards, which is likely to be a sister but I can find no birth details to give me anything to go on to order a certificate.

Is there any sites I can view which can help please? Obviously I would prefer not to order certificates unless necessary.

Thank you for your time...

Kind regards
Dee (Deirdre)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01434/1588200.pdf

Sorry I am not sure what you are asking me

click on the highlites site its for

Noel Kirker Kelly 1913 Newtownards

cant find
Mary Martin Kelly, born 1921 Newtownards
on the site

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Not sure the link is working but Noel has the same parents.

Haven't found the 1921 birth yet

If Anna was born in 21 March 1915, her birth seems to have been registered without the middle names.

Looks like David and Elizabeth married after the 1911 census was taken?


Ireland Census 1911 Transcription

Samuel C Kelly Head of Family Married 64 1847 Co Antrim, Connor
John Samuel Kelly Son Single 38 1873 Co Down, Newtownards
Minnie Gaw Kelly Sister Single 36 1875 Co Down, Newtownards
Eleanor Jane Kelly Sister Single 26 1885 Co Down, Nards
David Martin Kelly Brother Single 24 1887 Co Down, Nards
John Kelly Nephew Single 11 1900 Hollymount, Newtownards, Co Down
Wm Robert Strain Servant Married 27 1884 Donaghadee, Down
Alexander Ross Servant Single 17 1894 Edinburgh, Scotland
Robert Sailes Brother in Law Married 34 1877 Newtownards, Co Down

they married 1912

in banbrigde

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09918/5605195.pdf

her father is solomon

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Thomson Solomon 54 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Farmer Read and write - Married - - - -
Thomson Anna 48 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Down - Read and write - Married - 23 8 8
Thomson William J 20 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Farmers Son Read and write - Single - - - -
Thomson Sarah J 19 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down Hardwear Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Thomson Anna 16 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down Farmers Daughter Read and write - Single - - - -
Thomson David 15 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Thomson Stanley 14 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Thomson Samuel A 12 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Thomson Robert R 8 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write -

Different spelling of Elizabeth's middle and surnames (Mateer does seem more likely)

Print transcription
First name(s) Elizabeth Mateer
Last name Thompson
Registration year 1888
Registered quarter/year Oct - Dec 1888
Registration district Banbridge
Volume 1
Page 144
Mother's last name (original) -
County Armagh, Down
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Births 1864-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Ireland
copyright Family Search

Residents of a house 2 in Doughery (Banbridge Rural, Down)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Thomson Lizzie M 12 Female Daughter Presbyterian ??????
Thomson Sarah J 9 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson Anna 6 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson Soloman 43 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Thomson Stanley 4 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Samuel A 2 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson William J 10 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson David 5 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Anna 38 Female Wife Presbyterian

Is this where the Matier came from but still ThomPson

Elizabeth Matier
Last name Thompson
Registration year 1912
Registered Quarter/Year Jul - Sep 1912
Registration district Banbridge
Volume 1
Page 215
MarriageFinder™ Elizabeth Matier Thompson married one of these people
John Martin, George Jardine, James Nesbitt, David Martin Kelly, William John Watt, Samuel J Cupples
County -
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Marriages 1845-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Ireland
copyright Family Search

Party 1 Name SOLOMON THOMPSON
Party 2 Name ANNA KIRKER
Date of Event 02 July 1888
Group Registration ID 2471927
SR District/Reg Area Banbridge


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10771/5928560.pdf

First name(s) Samuel Carson
Last name Kelly
Age -
Marital status Single
Marriage year 1867
Marriage date 08 Oct 1867
Marriage place Newtownards, Down, Ireland
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Kelly
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Ellenor Jane
Spouse's last name Gaw
Spouse's age -
Spouse's birth place -
Spouse's marital status Single
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
Spouse's father's last name Gaw
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Ireland
Place Newtownards
County Down
Country Ireland
Record set Ireland Marriages 1619-1898
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Ireland
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Thank you both for assisting me, I am so pleased to have found a sibling of Dorothy's.
I knew I had a cousin in Oz but didn't know that she had any relatives other than my grandmother.

This means an awful lot to me, thank you so much.

I am sure that Mary must have been Dorothy's sister because of her name Mary Martin Kelly, maybe she died in infancy.

Kindest regards
Dee

PS I hope I have replied in the correct place! Dx

Mary Martin Kelly

in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 No Image


Name: Mary Martin Kelly
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1921
Registration district: Newtownards
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 802
FHL Film Number: 101079

Wow thank you Maddie!

Kindest regards
Dee

(Now I can order a certificate)

Hi

How can I obtain the records written in hand given earlier by safc please?

Kindest regards
Dee

Nudging up to new thread :-) :-) :-)