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John McAvoy
1848–1884
Birth 1848 • Scotland
Death 22 MAR 1884 • 44 Grasslot Maryport Cumberland


Elizabeth Hannah Nicholas
1845–1888
Birth 1 JULY1845 • Whitford Flintshire NWales
Death 23 DEC1888 • 31Collins Terrace Ellenbrough Maryport

siblings


Sarah Jane McAvoy
1870–1887
Birth 1870 • Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom
Death 4 AUGUST 1887 • 68 Grasslot Maryport Cumberland uk


Catherine McAvoy
1876–1882
Birth 1876 • Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom
Death 17 OCTOBER 1882 • 44 Grasslot Maryport Cumberland



Annie McAvoy
1876–
Birth 1876 • Tamworth now Staff then Warwickshire England uk
Death Unknown

mary

Mary McAvoy
1868–1932
Birth 10 MAY 1868 • 182 Cardiff Rd Aberdare Glamorgam S Wales
Death 13/FEB/1932 • 50 Grasslot Maryport Cumberland UK
Marriage
25 May 1889 • St Patrick's Chapel Maryport Cumberland

William Sloane
1862–1912
Birth 1862
Death 19 FEB 1912 • 52 Grasslot, Maryport, Cumberland


thomas

Thomas McAvoy
1880–
Birth 18 MAY 1880 • Pottery Field Skelmersdale lancashire
Death Unknown

john's parents

Patrick McAvoy
1816–1886
Birth 1816 • County Down Northern Ireland
Death 24 NOV 1886 • Brow Court, Brow St. Maryport Cum


Name Elizabeth Nicholas
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Urswick, Lancashire, England
Registration District Ulverstone
Gender Female
Age 5
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Birthplace Whitford, Flintshire
Page Number 18
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 2275 / 22
Benjamin Nicholas Head M 31 Camborne, Cornwall
Sarah Nicholas Wife F 24 Whitford, Flintshire
Mary J Nicholas Daughter F 8 Whitford, Flintshire
Elizabeth Nicholas Daughter F 5 Whitford, Flintshire
William Nicholas Son M 8 Pennington, Lancashire
Thomas Jones Lodger M 21 Whitford, Flintshire
William Sleep Lodger M 22 , Cornwall
William Blackwell Lodger M 20 Crowan, Cornwall
William Park Lodger M 19 Dalton, Lancashire

This looks like Thomas in 1891 though his place of birth doesn't fit (but, being an institution they perhaps would just take it that he was born where they took him in from) ??

Also in there is an 8 year old John who could well be this brother?

MCAVOY, JOHN STEPHEN NICHOLAS Order
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 586


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Flimby, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

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First name(s) Thomas
Last name McAboy
Relationship Inmate
Marital status -
Gender Male
Age 10
Birth year 1881
Occupation -
Birth town Ellenborough
Birth town as transcribed ELLENBOROUGH
Birth county Cumberland
Birth county as transcribed CUMBERLAND
Birth place England
Street -
Town Flimby Lodge Flimby
Parish Flimby
City -
County Cumberland
Registration district Cockermouth
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 4310
Folio 139
Page 3
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

Their father died in 1884 and their mother in 1888 ?

Dea x

I presume you know that Mary and Thomas both had the same mmname - i.e. Nicholas. However, I haven't been able to find a marriage yet..............(perhaps it was in Scotland as John was from there ??)

MCAVOY, THOMAS NICHOLAS Order
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 08B Page 878


MCVOY, MARY NICHOLAS Order
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 465

Dea x

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
81, Collins Terrace, Ellenborough and Ewanrigg, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Mc Avoy Head Married Male 35 1846 Coal Miner Scotland
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Elizabeth Mc Avoy Wife Married Female 34 1847 - Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
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Mary Mc Avoy Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Sarah J Mc Avoy Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Catherine Mc Avoy Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Annie Mc Avoy Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Tamworth, Warwickshire, England
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Thomas Mc Avoy Son Single Male 1 1880 - Skelmersdale, Lancashire, England
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Peter Mc Avoy Brother Single Male 32 1849 Coal Miner Ireland
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Thomas Mc Avoy Brother Single Male 28 1853 Coal Miner Egremont, Cumberland, England

Maddie. Thank you for the above ..It was very kind of you to post the details of the Sloan family...
I have been trying for years to connect dots with William Sloan and Mary McAvoy Sloan..(1911 Census) and my grandfather Thomas McEvoy....b abt. 1880 possibly Marys brother......

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/484743

That info. appeared to be the connection until....
Death of Elizabeth McAVOY in Q4 1888 aged 43. Cockermouth 10b 364

Deaths of
Thomas McEVOY Q2 1881 aged 2, C'moth 10b 340a
Catherine McAVOY Q4 1882 aged 7, C'mouth 10b 358
Sarah Jane McAVOY Q3 1887 aged 17, C'mouth 10b 351

Then a Thomas McAvoy b Maryport abt 1882 appears on the 1901 Census in Eccles Lancs. " Apprentice Shoemaker"....

1911 He is a "Master Shoemaker" married to Selena Reay living in Wallsend and gives his place of birth as Spennymoor Co Durham

His MC gives fathers name as John McEvoy Coal Miner decd.
Thomas was living alone in Wallsend at the time of his marriage so his address was of no help....

Can you see the problem...??

if you dont have

1935
18 Ellenborough Place , Maryport U.D., Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Edward Sloan 28 Nov 1905 Male Miner Brusher Heavy Married 64 1
Mary Hutton Sloan 29 Aug 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 64 2
Mary Eve (Sloan) 17 Jun 1933 Female At School Single 64 3
Florence Armstrong (Sloan) 13 Mar 1937 Female Under School Age Single 64 4
John Self 19 Nov 1930 Male At School Single 64 6
Evelyne Joyce Murphy (Self) 09 Jan 1927 Female - Single 64 5


3 Grasslot Coronation Street , Maryport U.D., Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Hugh Sloan 09 May 1889 Male ??? Married 59 1
Ellan J Sloan 24 Feb 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 59 2
Gerard Sloan 26 Sep 1920 Male Apprentice Colliery Elec Single 59 3
William Sloan 05 Jun 1922 Male Colliery Haulage Engineman Single 59 4
Mary Turner (Sloan) 05 Feb 1924 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 59 5

sloan Household (3 People) 15 Grasslot,Marypost , Maryport U.D., Cumberland, riginal image
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas Sloan 14 Aug 1894 Male Colliery Shopkeep Below Hw Married 160 1
Sarah Jane Sloan 01 Dec 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 160 2
John Sloan 24 Aug 1926 Male At School Single 160 3

24 Mandle Street , Maryport U.D., Cumberland, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John Sloan 17 Jan 1900 Male Colliery Hewer Heavy Worker Married 111 1
Bridger Sloan 12 May 1905 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 111 2
John Brian Sloan 26 Sep 1933 Male At School Single 111 3


63 Grasslot,Marypost , Maryport U.D., Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Nicholas Sloan 12 Mar 1902 Male Coal Cutter Hw Married 111 1
Margaret Sloan 04 Jul 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 111 2
Isabella Leonard (Sloan) 29 Mar 1927 Female At School Single 111 3
William Sloan 16 Dec 1929 Male Chemical Plumber & Leaad B? Single 111 4
John A Goodfellow 05 Apr 1914 Male Chemical Plumber & Lead Bu? Single 111 5

4 Gavel Street , Maryport U.D., Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Margaret Annie Sloan 10 Nov 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 2 6
John Benson Irving 15 May 1882 Male Rate Collector Married 2 1
Emma Irving 12 May 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 2 2
Neil R Kenwick 09 Aug 1928 Male At School Single 2 3
William Sloan 31 Oct 1892 Male Caretaker (Billiard Hall) Single 2 1

Many Thanks greyghost.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
52 Grasslot Maryport, Ellenborough and Ewanrigg, Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Sloan Head Married Male Coal Miner Shift Work 49 1862 Kilbeck Co Down
Mary Sloan Wife Married Female - 42 1869 Aberdane Wales
Hugh Sloan Son Single Male Coal Miner Shift Work 21 1890 Maryport Cumberland
William Sloan Son Single Male Coal Miner Drivers 18 1893 Maryport Cumberland
Thomas Sloan Son Single Male Coal Miner Drivers 16 1895 Cleaton Moor Cumberland
Margaret Ann Sloan Daughter - Female - 13 1898 Maryport Cumberland
John Sloan Son - Male - 11 1900 Workington Cumberland
Nicholas Sloan Son - Male - 9 1902 Maryport Cumberland
Sarah Sloan Daughter - Female - 7 1904 Maryport Cumberland
Edward Sloan Son - Male - 5 1906 Maryport Cumberland
Lena Sloan Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Maryport Cumberland

Married 21 years 11 children born, 2 have died

Could someone possibly give me the details for the family of William and Mary Sloan living Grasslot Maryport.
William Sloan would be abt.50 and with family a daughter aged 1 year named Lena.

Thank You