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AustinQ
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7 Sep 2017 17:10 |
Oh, as well as FMP, I have been using RootsIreland (although that finishes in two days), and https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
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AustinQ
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7 Sep 2017 17:08 |
Sorry RG- I deleted the info before I saw your reply.
I'm not sure re that Isaac- On FMP there is this which gives mother as Roseanne:
Ireland Census search forms 1841 & 1851 Transcription DATE OF RECEIPT: 16/ 11/ 15
Name of applicant: Isaac Mulholland Address: Mrs Sarah Mulholland, Derrycrew, Loughgall Names of Father and mother of applicant: Wm Mulholland & Roseanne Mulholland
County Armagh Barony: Oneilland West Townland Derrycrew. -----------------------------------------------
(Just incase it's related- here's the info I deleted)
Date of Marriage: 05-Jun-1874 Parish / District: LOUGHGALL CI
Name: Isaac Mulholland Age: Full age Address: Derrycrew Denomination: Civil Parish / District Occupation: LABOURER Age: Fa Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Father: William Mulholland (labourer)
Wife: Sarah Stothers Age: Minor Status: Spinster (Previously unmarried) Father: John Stothers (labourer)
Witnesses: James Carroll & Samuel Orr
MARRIED IN THE PARISH CHURCH ACCORDING TO THE RITES AND CEREMONIES OF THE UNITED CHURCH OF ENGLAND AND IRELAND BY LICENSE BY ME H BADHAM/ CONSENT OF FATHER --------------------------------------------------
There is also a marriage of Eliza Mulholland to William Little in 1873. Her address is Derrycrew, father William, and Isaac Mulholland and Sarah Jane Stothers were witnesses. -------------------------------------------------
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7 Sep 2017 16:51 |
Thank you both very much.
The baptism for John sounds spot on as on the 1901 census he gives his age as 40 years. That looks like the correct marriage for his parents and the fact that his father was a widower is new information.
AustenQ, I think Isaac it probably the correct family too as my Mum said her father's family were quite into biblical names. I do know, again from my Mum, that John Mulholland was a lay preacher in his spare time.
Thank you both so much.
I've been following up on your previous information and think I've found a possible birth for Mary McWade / McQuade and a possible marriage for her in the same parish as her daughter was born.
It's amazing the co-incidences in the family history. John Mulholland's future daughter in law's parents returned to Ireland and both died in Loughgall. Their daughter, my grandmother came back to Glasgow where she met and married John Mulholland's son in 1920.
John Mulholland being baptised on 10 November is another co-incidence as my mother, his granddaughter, was born on 10 November.
Thanks again and AustenQ, can you tell me what site you are using please?
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7 Sep 2017 15:30 |
There is this marriage?
17-Nov-1853 Parish / District: LOUGHGALL CI County: ARMAGH
Name: William Mulholland & Mary Quin Address: Derrycrew Derrycrew Denomination: Civil Parish / District Civil Parish / District Occupation: WEAVER Age: Fa Fa Status: Widower (Male) Spinster (Previously unmarried) Husband's Father Samuel Mulholland Labourer Wife's Father John Quin Farmer
Witness Name: William Wright & James Orr
Notes: MARRIED IN THE PARISH CHURCH ACCORDING TO THE RITES AND CEREMONIES OF THE UNITED CHURCH OF ENGLAND AND IRELAND BY LICENSE BY ME J R GREEN/ [FA=FULL AGE] ---------------------------------------------------------------- John Mulholland
Baptism Age:0
Birth Date:1861
Baptism Date:10 Nov 1861
Baptism Place:Loughgall and Tartaraghan, Armagh, Ireland
Parish Variants:Loughall, Tartaraghan
Diocese:Armagh
Mother: Mary Mulholland (no father named but not listed as illegitimate) Sponsor Ann MaCann
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7 Sep 2017 12:38 |
Well here we go.
No idea where in Ireland as none of them give a county on the census.
John Mulholland aged 26 years when he married in August 1886. Married by Sherriffs warrant so not sure of religion. Father William Mulholland and Mary Queen (or Quinn) neither noted as deceased. Although he stated bachelor, I think he was a widower as he has a son Samuel born about 1880 in Ireland. When Samuel marries he gives his father as John Mulholland and his mother as Eliza Jackson (deceased).
I am looking for
(1) Birth of John Mulholland about 1860
(2) Birth of Samuel Mulholland about 1880
(3) Marriage of John Mulholland and Eliza Jackson
(4). Marriage of William Mulholland and Mary Queen or Quinn
(5). Siblings of John Mulholland. I know he had a brother Samuel b. About 1862.
Anything at all would be great Gins. Thanks again for your kind offer and time.
Mrs. Rootie
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7 Sep 2017 11:17 |
Really appreciate your kind offer Gins as I've spent a few quid on Irish certificates over the years. Three of my grandparents were children of Irish parents and it's only recently that access to Irish records have been so accessible.
Will come back shortly with details of another branch that I would love some help with.
Thanks again to both you and AustenQ for your time :-D
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Gee
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7 Sep 2017 10:14 |
Bumping up for others to see :-)
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rootgatherer
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5 Sep 2017 17:45 |
Fantastic Gins! I did wonder why Edward and Ann had never named any of their sons William as all their other children, except my grandmother seemed to be named for family members.
Austin Q that's terrific! Interesting that Edward's address is given as Scotland on that first marriage. I had just assumed that he didn't come here until after his first marriage. Perhaps he came and got himself work and then returned to marry Elizabeth. From his sister's birth looks like he originally came from Tyrone.
Thank you both very much. It just goes to show that even after 40 years researching we can still be adding more meat to the bones.
Thanks again.
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AustinQ
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5 Sep 2017 16:56 |
Name: Catherine McVeigh Date of Baptism: 26-Nov-1843 Parish/District: BALLINDERRY Gender: Unknown County TYRONE Father: Thomas McVeigh Mother: Elizabeth Fulerton Informant 1: John Leary Informant 2: Margaret McGorrery
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AustinQ
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5 Sep 2017 16:50 |
Don't have much time- but making a start:
Church Marriage Record
Date of Marriage: 10-Jan-1871 Parish / District: CURRAN County: Co. Derry
Name: Edward McVey Address: Scotland Denomination: Presbyterian Occupation: MOULDER Age: 19 Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Father: Thomas McVey (labourer)
Wife: Eliza Brown Address: Killineese Denomination: Presbyterian Age 22 Status: Spinster (Previously unmarried) Father: Samuel Brown (farmer)
Witnesses: George Bear & William Marlin
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Gee
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5 Sep 2017 16:44 |
Not much luck with the others but here is Ann
Anne Eliza Ross Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 01-Jul-1855 Address: Parish/District: KILMORE Gender: Unknown County ARMAGH Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Thos Ross Mother: Mary McWade Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Sarah Weir Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: NR Notes: FR R MCKENNA/ /ILLEGITIMATE
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5 Sep 2017 15:17 |
Thanks for the look up offer Gins.
Bit of a long shots here but you never know.......
Looking for a birth for Edward McVey b about 1851. Father Thomas McVey, mother Elizabeth McVey formerly Burnside nee Fullarton. ( both deceased by 1881). He had at least one sibling, Catherine McVey born about 1844. Her marriage in 1862 does not note parents deceased. I'm fairly sure they were Church of Ireland as Edward's second wife was Roman Catholic although all his children were raised Presbyterian.
Also looking to confirm and buy certificate Edward's first marriage to Elizabeth Brown (b about 1848). The marriage took place in (looks like) Curran, Ireland on 10 January 1871 ( detail given on daughter's Scottish birth registration).
I'm also trying to find the birth of his second wife. Ann(ie) Ross born about 1855 in Armagh. Parents William Ross and Mary Ann Ross nee McQuade. I'm fairly sure that James McQuade born about 1867 is related to her as her step daughter was a witness at his marriage in 1892. His parents were James McQuade and Mary Ross previously McQuade nee (looks like) McCrea. Both parents deceased in 1892. Fairly sure the Ross and McQuade families were Roman Catholic, if that helps.
Hope you can help Gins. Thank you in advance for your time.
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Valerie
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5 Sep 2017 09:36 |
Thank you Gins.
Would you say it looks like there's a connection ...between MY John Brien & Mary Brien (nee Leary) (which you found earlier) ...with this other researcher ;;;;as her Bridget Brien shows sponsors JOHN & MARY BRIEN. (Bandon area)
We have been trying to establish a link ..... seems this could be it!.
Thank you very much Gins - you have been a great help with your searches!!! Valerie
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AustinQ
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5 Sep 2017 07:58 |
Possible baptism for Bridget:
Name BRIDGET BRIEN Date of Baptism: 2 January 1844
Father JERH BRIEN Mother CATHE SHEEHAN
Child Denomination RC
Sponsor 1 JOHN BRIEN Sponsor 2 MARY BRIEN
Recorded Diocesan Area CORK & ROSS Recorded Parochial Area BANDON -------------------------------------
for John:
Name JOHN BRIEN Date of Baptism: 11 October 1853
Father JERH BRIEN Mother CATHE SHEEHAN
Sponsor 1 JOHN COLLINS Sponsor 2 CATHE CROWLY
Recorded Parochial Area DESERTSERGES Area - CORK & ROSS (RC)
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Valerie
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5 Sep 2017 03:14 |
Thank you Gins - that's another 'WOW' - I am so grateful.
IF you have time - for another 'Bryan' researcher - can you find her 'Briens' in 'Drumlee' !!! (by word of mouth) - we think it's Dunmanway/Drimoleague/Dromaleague.
Jeremiah Brien b c1805 married c1838 to Catherine/Kate Sheehan
1st child Margaret b1839 2nd Henry/Patrick b1840 Bridget b1842 Catherine b1844 Michael b1846 she has up to John b1852
I know I have put you to lots of trouble before - but IF you have time Maureen would be most grateful.
Thanks again - Valerie
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Gee
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4 Sep 2017 06:33 |
Hi Valerie
Date of Marriage: 16-Sep-1819 Parish / District: KILLAVENEY County: Co. Wicklow Husband Luke Keohoe Wife Elizabeth Murphy Address: Rathdrum Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Witness 1John Murphy Witness 2Miles Foley
It seems there were other children too. Bridget' mother has a different name to the rest of them but the surname is the same. I wonder if Elizabeth died and Luke married her sister? Not uncommon back them. Done a search but not seeing any sign of another marriage so it could just be an error? You also have Elizabeth on the English census so very likely a mistake on the baptisim
Miles Kehoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 19-Nov-1820 Address: Ballymanus Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Kehoe Mother: Elisabeth Murphy Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: James Mernaugh Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Eleonor Kehoe ------------------------------------------------------
John Kehoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 08-Dec-1822 Address: Ballymanus Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Kehoe Mother: Elisabeth Murphy Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Miles Kehoe Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Bridget Murphy --------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Kehoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 26-Aug-1830 Address: Ballymanus Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Kehoe Mother: Elisabeth Murphy Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: John Lambert Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Margaret Lambert -------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Kehoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 08-May-1825 Address: Ballymanus Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Kehoe Mother: Elizabeth Murphy Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Michael Kehoe Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Margaret Murphy -------------------------------------------------------------
Patt Kehoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 08-Jul-1827 Address: Ballymanus Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Kehoe Mother: Elisabeth Murphy Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Christopher Kehoe Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Judith Murphy ----------------------------------------------------
Sarah Keyhoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 07-Jul-1833 Address: Ballymanus Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Keyhoe Mother: Eliza Murphy Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Michael Lambert Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Esther Lambert ------------------------------------------------------------
Bridgid Keyhoe Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 29-Oct-1837 Address: Parish/District: KILLAVENEY Gender: County Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Luke Keyhoe Mother: Bridget Murphy <<<<<<<<different first name for mother here? Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Patt Lambert Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Mary Carey
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Valerie
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4 Sep 2017 03:57 |
Hi Gins (again!) If you have the time - could you please check on my 'KEHOE's? Luke Kehoe (b1789) married Elizabeth __ (b1801) in Wexford. Can you see their parents?
(I already have their son (my) MILES KEHOE b1823 'Ferns'? Wexford. (& siblings Michael b1832 & Bridget 1838) (from 1851 UK census)
Thanks - if you can. Valerie (Kehoe)
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3 Sep 2017 19:32 |
Gins.....According to Liam and Caits marriage Liam's father was Farmer and Rate Collector...using GV Tithes etc for Bunratty Lower of Knocksaggart.....
R. S. O. Money order and telegraph office Postmaster-John Moran Conveyances-Newmarket a station Limerick and Ennis ry; four trains daily Stationmaster-Edward Meade Poor Law-Union of Ennis; Dispensary and Registration district of Newmarket Medical officer and Regr-Dr Edmond W F Frost Relieving officer-Patk Hickey Rate collector-William Halpin jun, Urlanbeg ******
On Liam's Baptism Record it had his parents as Wm and Mary Halpin.... Sponsors John Halpin and Honora O'Brien. Given other females had a maiden name looks like Mary may also have been Halpin !!
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Gee
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3 Sep 2017 18:57 |
Erin
I'm not convinced this adds to your info above but here it is from rootsire
Griffith's Valuation for Ireland
Griffith Halpin William Gorteen Doora Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Knockhogan Doora Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Knocksaggart Kilnasoolagh Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Rinemackaderrig Village Of Carrigaholt Moyarta Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Carrowena Ogonnelloe Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Cloonoughter St. Patricks Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Boheraroan Tomfinlough Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Newmarket Sixmilebridge Road Tomfinlough Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Cloonaleary Tulla Co. Clare Griffith Halpin William Drumullan Tulla Co. Clare
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3 Sep 2017 18:23 |
Nala.....
The Marriage of Liam and Cait took place at the RC Chapel Carrigarra (Carrigerry)..the Church is St. Conias.....Liam (William ) was the son of William Halpin farmer and rate collector of Knockagure.....the spelling of the Townlands varies depending on who writes the details...! Wm snr died 1898 aged 89 and his wife Mary (Liams mother) died 1892 aged 81yrs. Liam and Cait had a son Liam (Wm.) died aged 7 months in 1902.
Only 1 Wm Halpin in the area on Griffiths Valuation...
Halpin William Knocksaggart Kilnasoolagh Clare
Prior to that it was James Halpin....1825 Tithes for same address..(different spelling) !
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