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Hi Everybody,
I hope you are all well.
First, I would like to start by saying thank you for your help. However, l have come to learn that the whole side of my dad's mother's side of my family tree is all wrong. I have to start again.
So l am asking for some help to restart my Grandmother's tree again.
Annie Colclough 1905-1962 married Bertrum Knox 1905-1973
Annie Colclough 1905
Edith May Colclough 1912
Were both born out of wedlock and carried their mother's surname of Colclough.
Annie /Edith's mother was named
Ann Jane Colclough 1881 went on to marry Thomas Chamber 1879-1918 died in WW1 in France. They went on to have a child named.
Thomas Chambers 29th December 1915-1977 son of Thomas/ Ann
Ann 1881 parents are
Samuel Benjamine Colclough 1855
Sarah Simpson 1865
I think Thomas Chambers mother maiden name is Warrilow
any information will be really helpful
thanks
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Go back and read through your earlier threads. Take in the advise and sources used or given.
Use that to do your research.
To find the mmn for Thomas Chambers find his birth reference and look him up on the GRO this will now give his mothers maiden name.
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COLCLOUGH, EDITH MAY mmn COLCLOUGH
GRO Reference: 1912 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 476
COLCLOUGH, ANN JANE -
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 242
Ann Jane Colclough
in the 1911 England Census
Name Ann Jane Colclough
Age in 1911 5
Estimated Birth Year abt 1906
Relation to Head Granddaughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Stoke, Staffordshire
Civil parish Stoke upon Trent
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Street Address No 17 Thomas St, Stoke On Trent
Occupation School
Registration District Number 361
Sub-registration district Stoke upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel 15
Piece 16563
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Samuel B Colclough 55 Head
Sarah Colclough 48 Wife
Ann Colclough 29 Daughter
Joe Colclough 26 Son
John Colclough 23 Son
Sam Colclough 21 Son
William Colclough 19 Son
Ann Jane Colclough 5 Granddaughter
How much research have you done?
Have you traced Samuel, for instance, back through censuses to find his parents?
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Re Samuel -
he's easily found in censuses. I'm not posting them all.
Here he is with his parents in 1861:
Samuel Colclough
in the 1861 England Census
Name Samuel Colclough
Gender Male
Age 6
Relation Son
Estimated Birth Year 1855
Father's Name John Colclough
Mother's Name Sarah Colclough
Where born Longton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish Fenton
Town Fenton
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel 6
Neighbors
Household schedule number 35
Piece 1940
Folio 121
Page number 7
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Colclough 31 Head
Sarah Colclough 29 Wife
Ann Colclough 11 Daughter
Samuel Colclough 6 Son
Mary Ellen Colclough 3 Daughter
William Brunt 24 Brother-in-law
Sarah Brunt 22 Sister-in-law
Mary Brunt 2 Niece
Harriet Brunt 3/12 Niece
Samuel's birth, from the GRO site:
COLCLOUGH, SAMUEL BENJAMIN mmn BRUNT
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 174
Therefore, from FreeBMD, his parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1849 (>99%)
Brunt Sarah Stoke upon Trent 17 216
Colclough John Stoke on T 17 216
and so on . . . .
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You haven’t acknowledged the help on your last two threads on here, so asking again isn’t a very good idea
I certainly won’t be adding any info to this one :-| :-|
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ErikaaH
I have not been able to look at the message until today as l have been in hospital, due to a heart condition l have.
Only came home yesterday so l am just looking throw the messages.
So l am going throw the messages now.
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Thank you for the information
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Sorry about your health issues.
There is a ‘My threads’ option under ‘TOOLS”.
Use it to keep track of all the requests you post, so that you can add feedback.
There is one dated 2nd January which still needs your attention and a quantity of earlier threads to which you have not added feedback, over a number of years
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1403529
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Stuck indoors on a wild wet day, so.....................
From the GRO site.....FREE to all. Make a note - and USE IT for births and deaths (it does not have marriages)
CHAMBERS, THOMAS COLCLOUGH
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 329
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
1921 Census Of England & Wales
7, Market Place, Stoke on Trent, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Ann Chambers Widow Female 1883 38 Hanley, Staffordshire, England House Duties Widow House Duties Widow
Ann Jane Colclough Daughter Female 1906 15 Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshire, England Clay Carrier Coronation Pottery Stoke On Trent
Edith May Colclough Daughter Female 1912 9 Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshire, England - -
Thomas Chambers Son Male 1915 6 Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Chambers Thomas Colclough Stoke T. 6b 487
Colclough Ann Chambers Stoke T. 6b 48
Name Ann Colelough
Gender Female
Marriage Date 2 May 1915
Marriage Place Parish Church Stoke
Document Date 1915
Residence Place 8 Peel St, Stoke-On-Trent
Relationship to Soldier Spouse
Form Title Service and Casualty
Name Thomas Chambers
Gender Male
Enlistment Age 36yrs 2 months
Birth Date abt 1879
Document dated 6th December
The birth which you have suggested would certainly fit with the age on the enlistment form
CHAMBERS, THOMAS WARRILLOW
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 213
However, as you have 'gone wrong' before, it would be wise to get PROOF in order not to do so again.
You don't give any indication in your post as to where the 'mess' is, so we have no idea what path you followed before................ :-S :-S :-S
You could easily have found the following............
Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
CHAMBERS Armel Wolverhampton 6b 664
Warrilow Martha Wolverhampton 6b 664
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
9, Commercial Road, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Armel Chambers Head Married Male 31 1850 Genl laborer Kinver, Staffordshire, England
Martha Chambers Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Mary E Chambers Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Oliver Chambers Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Chambers Son Single Male 1 1880 - Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Mary Warrilow Boarder Widow Female 52 1829 P gloss w housewom Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Louis Warrilow Boarder Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Stoke, Staffordshire, England
HOWEVER...........................
The above have NO connection whatsoever to you. Thomas Chambers 1879 was NOT related to your grandmother.
You can trace ONLY her MOTHER's line
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Marriages Sep 1932 (>99%)
Colclough Annie J Knox Stoke T. 6b 397
Knox Bert Colclough Stoke T. 6b 397
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