Genealogy Chat

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Hi Jennifer it seems we are trying to find the same family

Sorry Christine I'm talking rubbish. I have found Walter Alfred in 1911. He is living alone in Peckham and says he is a widower. He was a 'conductor' I doubt if that means of an orchestra - more likely a bus! I have bought that certificate. I can't find the other family.

I'm trying to link the two families together.
John George Richardson 1856 Chelsea. Spouse: Mary Warren. Children:Frederick, Emily, Thomas,John , Mary, Charles, WIlliam all born in WImbledon
and Walter Alfred, son of Charles RIchardson born in Nunhead.
My friend Kelly is the grand daughter of the Frederick in this list.

I haven't been able to find them in 1911 yet but I believe more records are coming later on and will tyr again.

i think the link must be in a generation further back - say John and Walter's grandparents for example

Have you found them on the 1911 census?

Which Frederick are you trying to find links with?

Christine

Hi Christine - thanks for that. Yes, I think those are the right census reports for Walter. Can you see any links with Frederick? Purveyor of horse flesh sounds like a traveller , doesn't it?

1891 England Census
about Waller Richardson
Name: Waller Richardson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Nunhead, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anthony
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Richardson 35
Harriet Richardson 33
Maud Richardson 10
Charles Richardson 8
Waller Richardson 7
Eremas Richardson 3
Percy Richardson 1


Christine

Could this be Walter in 1901, age out a little,
occ Horse trader

1901 England Census
about Walter Richardson
Name: Walter Richardson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: Nunhead, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Antholin
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Harriett Richardson 41
Maud Richardson 20
Charles Richardson 18
Walter Richardson 19
Exmas Richardson 13
Percy Richardson 11

Christine

Thanks Diddydoris - i think that is Frederick's father John. I would love to find something with Walter and John together. or a connection further back in the previous generation. Walter Alfred is the grandfather of the infamous Charlie Richardson but he is very hard to find on a census with his family. John George is the G Grandfather of my friend Kelly and she wants to find out how she is connected to the thugs of South London (don't ask why!!). There has been a story in her family and most of her living relatives won't talk about it.

1861 England Census
about John G Richardson
Name: John G Richardson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Richardson 35
John G Richardson 4
Eliza T Richardson 7 Mo

I'm looking for a connection between the following two people:

John George Richardson 1856 Chelsea. Spouse: Mary Warren. Children:Frederick, Emily, Thomas,John , Mary, Charles, WIlliam all born in WImbledon.

AND

Walter Alfred Richardson born 1885 in Peckham son of Charles and Harriet Richardson. Child: Charles Frederick Richardson 1909. born in Fulham.

Any suggestions would be helpful.
The only other info I have is that Charles Frederick was said to have been the eldest of 13 children (possibly not all of the name Richardson -may have been a second marriage to Hummerston) and I believe Walter Alfred had a traveller's funeral on Mitcham Common. Charles Frederick married Eileen Elizabeth Mary Allen. in 1933 and Walter Alfred was dead then.