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I am trying to trace the parents of my Grandfather Horace White who was registered in the 1881 Census as being an inmate in the Shoreditch Workhouse Kingsland Road. Any advice on where the record of his parents might be would be priceless!

Thanks

Bryan :-D

Can I ask how you know this Horace White was your Grandfather?

Have you found him on the 1891 census?

Have you a copy of his birth certificate which would give his father's name?

Have you tried to find his birth registration.

www.freebmd.org.uk

Name: Horace White
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Inmate of Workhouse (Inmate)
Gender: Male
Where born: London Shoreditch, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: "Shoreditch Workhouse" 213 Kingsland Road
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston
ED, institution, or vessel: Shoreditch Workhouse
Neighbors:
Piece: 409
Folio: 103
Page Number: 13

there is also a charles white born 1841 listed there as well, may not be a relation

This is the only one registered in Shoreditch between 1870 and 1875

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
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White Horace Robert Shoreditch 1c 59

Have you ruled this Horace White out??

Name Horace White
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Address
District Shoreditch, St Leonard
Parish Shoreditch
Administrative County Middlesex
Birth Place Shoreditch
Birth County Middlesex
Reference Information
Folio 88
Page 16
Piece RS00


could match the BMD entry below:

Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
White Horace Robert Shoreditch 1c 59



Perhaps the Horace White in the workhouse was not born in Shoreditch??

I guess you must be able to identify his marriage to your grandmother so that should give you his father's name if you purchase the certificate?

???

Name: Horace Skeates White
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 20 June 1871
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1875
Father's Name: Thomas White (Clerk)
Mother's Name: Margaret White
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Agatha
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address: 15 Princes Street, Barbican



Name: Horace S White
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1951
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Middlesex South
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 3


Census detail for the Horace that MJH65 posted above.

1881

Name: Horace White
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred White
Mother's Name: Martha White
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: St Leonard
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 386
Folio: 88
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred White 51 Horn & Ivory Turner
Martha White 42
Alfred White 16
Martha White 20
Alice White 18
Jessie White 11
Horace White 7
Herbert White 5

Horace R White, son of Alfred and Martha, is with his parents and siblings in the 1881 census so discount that one.
As rootgatherer suggests, it might be worth investigating Horace Skeates White s/o Thomas and Margaret b. 20 June 1871. Perhaps one or both parents died which may have been why he was in the workhouse.
Interestingly this particular Horace had a brother, Herbert Henry White, born in December 1873. In 1881 Herbert was at the Shoreditch Industrial School in Brentwood.
Also, there is a Horace White age 20 born Hackney in the 1891 census as a Pte. with the Norfolk Regiment camped in Colchester. That would follow the pattern of a workhouse child.
However, if he is your Grandfather you would probably know this already? Do you know if he had a brother?

SOME WORKHOUSES JUST REGISTTERED BIRTHS AS IE:JUNE QUAR 4 MALE-2 FEMALE

Horace Skeats White is my Grandfather, it is he that was in the Workhouse in 1871 AND at the Army Barracks in 1891 as posted so everything fits.

He died in 1951 aged 80 and is buried in Shakelgate Lane cemetery in Teddington, Mum and I visited his unmarked grave last October.

She climbed out of her wheelchair to stand at his graveside for the first time since 1953 and we placed a simple stone HSW 1871 -1951.

It was one of the best moments in my life. Mum always wanted to know her roots but alas she passed six weeks ago and I am the poorer for the fact she never knew.

I know Herbert, my grandfather brother went to Canada probably about 1900-1910. As we cleared mums house a wrist bracelet with the crest of the Royal Canadian Engineers dropped out of a box. So a tantalising clue.

Thanks to all on here who have given me the links I need to work on his line I am in your debt. This site works!

Bryan

His marriage

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Horace Sheat White
Name: Horace Sheat White
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Violet Maud Adam
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Mar 1910
Parish: Brixton St Paul
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Thomas Sheats White
Spouse Father Name: Edward Adam
Register Type: Parish Register


1911 England Census
about Horace Skeats White
Name: Horace Skeats White
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Birth Place: London, England, Middlesex
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: Royal Artillery Barracks, Admiralty Road, Gt Yarmouth
Marital Status: Married
Military unit: 5th Battalion Norfolk Regiment
Registration district: Yarmouth
Registration District Number: 219
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 10-11
Piece: 11075
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Smith 36
George Edward Benge 40
Laud Sydney Stanley Wharran 21
Horace Skeats White 39
Thomas Magee 22

1911

Name: Violet Maude White
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England, Middlesex
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: Royal Artillery Barracks, Admiralty Road, Gt Yarmouth
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Yarmouth
Registration District Number: 219
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 10-11
Piece: 11075
Household Members: Name Age
Violet Maude White 26 << Married 1 year
Maud Mary Benge 29
Maud Gertrude Benge 5
Florence Alice Benge 3
Emily Ethel Benge 2
Edith May Benge 10/12