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Hi there,
Does anyone know anything about William Edward Lee, born 1912 (possibly late 1911). Before she died my Gran told me that he was illegitimate, and thought his dad was called Rosenthall - a doctor, as his mum was in service. They were married in Ashton, but no fathers name on Marraige cert. My mum used to talk about having a grandma Bertha, which is my only other clue.
One of the witnesses at the wedding was a Lydia Lee. I've found her on the 1911 census living in Cheadle with a 20 yr old daughter called Bertha. Until the 1921 census comes out my only hope is a birth cert, but I can't find a registration for him anywhere from 1911 - 1913.
Does anyone have any ideas please. He walked out on the family just after the war, but nothing known of him after that.

Bless you
Debbie

Hi where was he born

what year was the wedding that Lydia was witness at?

have you discounted any births? if he was illigitimate then the mmn will be Lee on the GRO ref


Name: William E Lee
Mother's Maiden Name: Lee
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Registration district: Nuneaton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 943

well Bertha certainly was old enough to have a baby

1911 census transcription details for: Manchester Road Cheadle Cheshire

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN21434 RG78PN1275 RD443 SD8 ED6 SN266
Reg. District: Stockport
Sub District: Cheadle
Parish: Cheadle
Enum. District: 6
Address: Manchester Road Cheadle Cheshire
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LEE, Jeffrey Head Married M 56 1855 Labourer Heaton Mersy
LEE, Lydia Wife Married
35 years F 58 1853 Manchester Lancs
LEE, Ellen Daughter Single F 23 1888 Chemist Packer Cheadle Cheshire
LEE, Bertha Daughter F 20 1891 Confectioner Cheadle Cheshire
LEE, Agnes Daughter F 17 1894 Tailoress Cheadle Cheshire
LEE, John Son M 14 1897 Office Boy Cheadle Cheshir

That Lydia though appears to have died in 1921 so way before William would have married
Name: Lydia Lee
Birth Date: abt 1853
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1921
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Stockport
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 117

Possible marriage for that Bertha

Name: Bertha Lee
Spouse Surname: Spencer
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Registration district: Stockport
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 45
spouse Frederick Spencer

is this the marriage
Name: William E Lee
Spouse Surname: Skitt
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1932
Registration district: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire, Cheshire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1267
Find Spouse: Agnes Skitt

???

maybe he went back to his roots


Name: William E Lee
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1960
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Nuneaton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 988

Thanks for your replies folks, I'll try and answer what I can.
William Edward Lee married to Agnes Skitt 1932
Mum used to talk about Grandma Bertha & an Aunt Polly, however, she wasn't sure which was actually his mum!!
I tried Lydia as I can't find anything else, but if the one from Cheadle died in 1921 it rules her out.
He married my Gran in Ashton, and as far as I know his family were all from around the area. My Gran was from Duckinfield and didn't travel far from there.
His mum was supposedly in service to a Jewish doctor when she got pregnant. My Gran couldn't remember if he was called Rosenthall or Rosenburg, but can't find any doctors in the locality either.
So sorry it's not much to go on. He was never talked about 'til just before Gran died, and at 83 she couldn't remember much. My mum and sisters were around 8 when he left so don't know much either. Can't even find an army record for him.
Thanks for your help
Bless you
Debbie

Theres no birth though for his name in the Ashton area. The only one c 1912 with mmn Lee is the one i posted,

His birth should have be registered .

Maybe if his mum was away in service he maybe wasnt born where you thought although his mums family lived in Ashton area.

My mum and her sisters lived in SE London but were in service in Berkshire and Hampshire in live in positions in the 1920,s