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Thanks Eringobragh I will bear this in mind. Now I have to work out how Catherine ended up in Ireland again to get married if that is her family in Manchester :)

For Ref....
1851 Census shows place of birth for John Goggin as Fultinglass Ireland...

I suggest this should be Baltinglas which is SW of the Co Wicklow near the border with the Co Carlow....given that his wife and daughter give Co Wicklow as their place of birth it would be worth looking in that area for the Goggins....

Hi Reggie, thanks for this! I think you are on to a winner with the Goggins as Iknow that Catherine had a sister called Mary. The Enoch info is also my assumption since I discovered his father was called James. Its certainly given me some new lines of enquiry :)

This is what you didn't see

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index,

Name: Enoch Emery
Date of Registration: 1863
Registration district: Fermoy
Volume: 6
Page: 22 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101249

Others on page

Name Registration Date Registration district
View Record Sarah Jane Brown Peirce 1863 Fermoy
View Record Enoch Emery 1863 Fermoy
View Record Catherine Goggin 1863 Fermoy
View Record William Henry Howard 1863 Fermoy
View Record Anne Mills 1863 Fermoy
View Record David Coegswell Owens 1863 Fermoy
View Record David Coesgswell Owens 1863 Fermoy
View Record Sarah Jane Peirce Ow Brown 1863 Fermoy
View Record Mary Pigott 1863 Fermoy
View Record William Henry Towers

Ancestry records suggest that he married Catherine Goggin



1851 England Census

Name: Catharine Goggin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Goggin
Mother's Name: Ann Goggin
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 2225
Folio: 520
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
John Goggin 52 born Fultinglass, Ireland
Ann Goggin 46 born Wicklad (?Wicklow?)
Mary Goggin 19 born Wichlon ?Wicklow?
Bridget Goggin 13 born Ashton, Lancs
Margaret Goggin 11
Catharine Goggin 9
Winifred Goggin 4


1841 England Census

Name: Ann Gogin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 576
Book: 4
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Devine 28
John Gogin 40
Ann Gogin 36
Mayr Gogin 9
Bridget Gogin 6
Margaret Gogin 4
Catherine Gogin 1



1851 England Census

Name: Enock Emery
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Emery
Mother's Name: Phoebe Emery
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Coseley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Moxley All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 2022
Folio: 46
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
James Emery 50 b. Eccleshall, Staffs
Phoebe Emery 53 b. Wednesbury, Staffs
Enock Emery 15

Sorry Reggie I'm assuming I missed something. I checked this very quickly on my phone at work and the screen is small. I thought I had acknowledged the posts.

As my posts were invisible, I've removed them...............and made a mental note.

Marie, how kind of you doing that :) thank you!!
Safc thank you those are the correct links to Enoch and Catherine as he servedin India!
Thanks mgnv and gina for the info

Catherine Emery

India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

birth: 09 Jul 1869 Mhow,? Bengal,? India
christening: 17 Jul 1869 Mhow,? Bengal,? India
residence: 1869 Bengal,? India

parents: Enoch Emery,? Catherine

John Emmery

India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

birth: 14 Sep 1871 Calcutta,? Bengal,? India
christening: 22 Sep 1871 Calcutta,? Bengal,? India
residence: 1871 Bengal,? India

parents: Enoch Emmery,? Catherine

1861 Worldwide Army Index

First Name(s):Enoch
Last Name:Emery
Number:164
Rank:Private
Unit:95th Foot (Derbyshire)
Regiment Stationed at:Poona East Indies
National Archives reference:WO12 / 9560

Flicky, I'm bored and I had some spare credits for RootsIreland so here's the marriage record:

Church Marriage Record
Date of Marriage: 11-Dec-1863
Parish / District: FERMOY County: Co. Cork
Husband Enoch Emery, Fermoy, PT 95 REGT
Wife Catherine Goggan St Annes Shandon Cork
Denomination: Church Of Ireland
Occupation: PT 95 REGT

Husband's Father James Emery, Labourer
Wife's Father John Goggan, Labourer

Witness 1 John Meyers
Witness 2 Joseph Thompsn
Notes:
PRIEST: RICHARD C.MEADE

Bride and groom were both Church of Ireland and were of full age.

This gives a useful clue re: military.

groom's name: Enoch Emery
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Catherine Goggin
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 11 Dec 1863
marriage place: Fermoy, Cork, Ireland
groom's father's name: James Emery
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Goggin
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M70228-6
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101447
reference number: 22

Hi Flicky

If your relative was married in the Protestant Church marriage records start from 1846.

GinaS

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

You're welcome :)

You'll see my post there about the speedy service - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.110.html

Happy hunting.

Thank you i took a look at RootsChat! I now realise I need to do it the old fashioned way and not online. Thanks Joy :)

Try using this site
http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm

- an explanation is in
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.0.html

I am trying to access a copy if this record


name: Enoch Emery
registration district: Fermoy
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: 1863
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101249
volume number: 6
page number: 22
digital folder number: 4179382
image number: 00072

When I try to fill in the form on HSE.ie you can only select as far back as 1923. I can see this marriage was registered but when I inquired the HSE.ie have said no records pre 1864 and i would need to contact the church. But its a civil record and I thought if it is non religious - which I assume it was since it has been recorded- they were actually recorded by this time. Sorry long confusing waffle but basically my question is how can I get the certificate for this marriage? Who can I contact?
Hope someone can help! :)