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1913 Irish court records

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bighen

bighen Report 3 Oct 2012 22:17

Does anyone know how i can get a transcript of a court record in Cork Ireland in 1913.

I found it on LSD site and contacted them but they say they do not hold the actual document.

Pam

Liam

Liam Report 4 Oct 2012 00:05


Without any info whether Cork City or County, you could try the Courthouse, Washington Street, Cork. They may have archives, or point you in the righ direction.
The papers usually reported court cases, you could also try the Cork Examiner Archives [now known as the Irish Examiner ]

bighen

bighen Report 4 Oct 2012 08:40

Liam ,Thank you very much,i know that he was a policeman at the time so like you say the papers might be interested.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 4 Oct 2012 09:12

Pam...I have Cork Examiner extracts but only 1 for 1913...February....
There may be something in earlier news pre the case going to Court/later depending on date of Court Case....any good...??

bighen

bighen Report 4 Oct 2012 10:06

Hi i'm not sure of the datebut this is what i have,

name:

John Melamphy



also known as:

Edward Melamphy



role of individual:

Prisoner



event:

Prison



event date:

1913



event place:

Cork County, Cork, Ireland



residence:

Castletownroche



age:

53



birthplace:

Tipperary



estimated birth year:

1860



prison:

Cork County



offence:

Illtreat Beat & Burn His Child



victim:




victim's address:




where convicted:




item:

2



book:

1/8/37



county:

Cork



film number:

2356952



digital folder number:

004492708



image number:

00566

bighen

bighen Report 4 Oct 2012 10:07

Not sure why it came out like that,sorry

Pam

Liam

Liam Report 4 Oct 2012 11:03

I would contact the office of the Southern Star [ paper ] in Skibereen see if they have anything in their archives


Edit
my mistake Castletownroche is in North cork, however the Southern Star may still have reported on this

bighen

bighen Report 4 Oct 2012 11:08

Thanks again Liam,i have sent emails to the court and the paper you said in your last reply so will send one to these also.

Liam

Liam Report 4 Oct 2012 11:32

Hi'Pam

John Melamphy aged 53 height 5 ft 8 / scar to right ear/ 3 boil marks in back of neck.
fresh complection/ eyes grey
occ/ RIC pension
Add- Tipperary
next of kin / Edward Melamphy,[ son ] Greenmount, Cork.
court date - 5/6 / 13
sentence 2 months
release date 4/8/13
although there is another date 27/7/13 perhaps time off ?

bighen

bighen Report 4 Oct 2012 14:05

Liam,where on earth did you find that ?

Thats brilliant ,thank you very much.

Pam

Liam

Liam Report 4 Oct 2012 15:00

Hi' Pam
info obtained from

Irish Prison Register, from 1790- 1924

I should have mentioned John was a widower at the time

bighen

bighen Report 4 Oct 2012 15:12

Hi Liam,

I knew he was a widower as his wife died in 1910 and he was left with all the children.From what my friend has told me he was a very violent man and beat all the children on a regular bases.Her mother still had scars on her head from childhood.
I am waiting to see if any of the papers comes up with a story seeing as he was in police force,one has answered and i sent them the details you so kindly got for me.
Is there a website for the prison register as you never know this might not have been the first time.
Once again thank you.

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 5 Oct 2012 09:51

I think FMP.ie has the full record.

Maybe if someone has a subscription there they will look it up for you

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 5 Oct 2012 09:58

"FamilySearch has added 3,127,594 records from the National Archives of Ireland's collection of prison registers to its free database.

The indexed records include most of the surviving prison registers from the 26 counties of the Republic 1790-1924. Northern Ireland prisons are not included.

This project was done in cooperation with the subscription-based FindMyPast Ireland, where the full register entries can be viewed.

On the FamilySearch database, the records are limited to name, alleged crime, and date of committal, as you can see from the image.

The full record, over on FindMyPast.ie, may contain considerably more information such as physical characteristics, next of kin, address etc. In the 1838 example shown, the additional information gleaned by consulting the paid-for record includes the fact that James was 20-years-old and was arrested and committed along with a Catherine Santry, born circa 1798 (probably his mother), and they were both found 'not guilty' at Clonakilty Petty Sessions.

Although this free index to the records is limited, it's a very useful addition and well-worth investigating before paying out. "

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 5 Oct 2012 10:40

Or you could do 'Pay as you go', 9.95 Euro for 100 credits.

bighen

bighen Report 5 Oct 2012 14:45

Thanks Mary Mc,i have emailed diff places to see if there was anything in one of the papers at that time but not had an answer yet.