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Can any one help me. I am looking for marriage details for William Pratt born 1862/63 and Matilda Juila Laurence. I believe they had 2 children as well.

I have looked but no luck

Thank you

Anthony

Which county were they born? Do you know when the first child was born?

Kath. x

Hi Kath

William was born in Greenwich London. I will find out the other info and message u

Ant

Knocks the date of birth you have for him on the head but it's the only one which showed up for same details over a wide search period.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Knight William Downer St Saviour 1d 131
Laurence Matilda St. Saviour 1d 131
Nash Jane St. Saviour 1d 131
Pratt William St. Saviour 1d 131

Marrying age Matildas?


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1845 (>99%)
Laurence Matilda Edmonton 3 147
Births Jun 1847 (>99%)
Laurence Matilda Ticehurst 7 383
Laurence Matilda ___hurst [XV]II 2[__]3
Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
Laurence Matilda Guildford 4 212

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1871 England Census about William Pratt
Name: William Pratt
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Pratt
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Pratt
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alphage
Town: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 118
Piece: 754
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Pratt 51
Mary Ann Pratt 52
Edward Rt Bratt 26
William Pratt 20 ooc smith
Joseph Pratt 19
Emily Pratt 14
Charles Pratt 9
Albert Pratt 7

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 754; Folio: 14; Page: 21; GSU roll: 824725.
address west side of Brand Street

If you were correct about being born in Greenwich there are these possibles but you might be able to reduce them

Births Jun 1850 (>99%)
Pratt William George Greenwich 5 261

It's not William George on the marriage index.

Births Sep 1855 (>99%)
Pratt William Greenwich 1d 487
Pratt William Greenwich 1d 537
Deaths Dec 1855 (>99%)
Pratt William Greenwich 1d 315

The death may relate to either Williams born in 1885 but this is too much guesswork.

Best thing to do is obtain the marriage cert and go from there. I did look to see if it was on FamilySearch but afraid it didn't seem to be.

still unmarried in 1881
nd Census about William Pratt
Name: William Pratt
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Pratt
Mother's Name: Mary Pratt
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Red Lion Green Lane
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Engineer & M
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 721
Folio: 36
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Pratt 61
Mary Pratt 62
William Pratt 30
Charles Pratt 21
Albert Pratt 16

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 721; Folio: 36; Page: 31; GSU roll: 1341168.

married to a Hannah in 1891 so probaly not your man !!

Name: William G Pratt
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Pratt
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 510
Folio: 75
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William G Pratt 40
Hannah Pratt 37

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 510; Folio: 75; Page: 29; GSU roll: 6095620.




How did you get back to them ??

I've not been able to find them on the census at all Shirley.

Wonder if we started off with the correct couple to begin with.

Definitely need to know how you got back to this couple Anthony. You see, as a for instance, we are trying to find this couple but one or both could have died by the time of the 1881. If one of them had died we could be looking at another marriage.

Tell us what you know for certain and we'll try and firm all this up.

And how do you know she is Matilda Julia? Where did you get her middle name from? J

Finally found something for Matilda Julia with a spelling variation of 'w' instead of 'u'.

This is it and not your man.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
GUTOLF Frederick Bethnal Green 1c 432
GUTROLF Frederick Bethnal Green 1c 432
Lawrence Matilda Julia Bethnal Green 1c 432
OSBORN Amos Bethnal Green 1c 432
Ward Jane Bethnal Green 1c 432

Just tidying up!

The 1871 marriage can't be the right one as that William Pratt married Jane Nash:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Pratt
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Jane Nash
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Oct 1871
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Pratt
Spouse Father Name: John Hookway
Register Type: Parish Register


and

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Downer Knight
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Matilda Lawrence
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Nov 1871
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Knight
Spouse Father Name: William Lawrence
Register Type: Parish Register

Well there you go. MC has it sorted. Marriage wasn't. I did do quite a wide date spread for the marriage but maybe they weren't.

Come and tidy up my house would you please MC :-D

Anthony come back and we can start again.

Jill - go and take a running jump!! :-D

Takes me all me time to do me own house!

Well that's not very nice :-0

And I thought I asked so nicely.

So :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P to you.

<3

Thank you so much for your help. I will take the info and come back to you.

Anthony

You're welcome Anthony. If you give us the starting point, we will help you out. Obviously the info you were given or found yourself regarding the marriage was duff but no reason why we can't get you back on the right track.

Jill