paragraph 392(xv)

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Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 16:18
	yes stuart that is him i have the certificate zena
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	31 Dec 2012 15:32
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Could this be a marriage ?? Civil Registration event: Marriage MarriageFinder: Philip J Dawson married Rosina Francis Name: DAWSON, Philip J Registration district: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1914 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Francis Volume no: 6D Page no: 314
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	31 Dec 2012 15:20
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	1911 census transcription details for: 183 King Ed Road National Archive Reference: RG14PN18003 RG78PN1095 RD384 SD1 ED15 SN23C Reg. District: Birmingham Sub District: Ladywood Parish: Birmingham Enum. District: 15 Address: 183 King Ed Road County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born DANSON, Philip Head Married25 years M 52 1859 Ladder Maker Warwickshire Bham DANSON, Emma Wife Married25 years F 49 1862 Stratford on Avon DANSON, Philip Son Single M 17 1894 Polisher Of Silver Warwickshire Bham DANSON, Florence Daughter Single F 19 1892 Jeweller Enameller Warwickshire Bham DANSON, Harold Son Single M 15 1896 Bras Fitting Worker Warwickshire Bham His 1912 attestation papers show NOK as Father - Philip, Mother - Emily, Brother - Harold, Sister, Florence at 211 New Spring Street, Brookfields, Birmingham. He has gone from Silver Polisher in 1911 to General Labourer at attestation His parish of birth is Aston 1901 census shows him as Philip John Dawson - - Dec Qtr 1893 Aston, Warwicks 6D 406 The WW1 Royal Warwickshire Reg death in Mesopotamia is of a Philip Dawson (there is a Philip b 1887 in Birmingham on the 1911)
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 12:45
	just found possible death 1917 mesopotania have to investigate more
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Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 12:34
	hi both hard to follow family because they change their christian names and surnames are transcribed wrong 1911 with parents philip and emma danson should be dawson 183 st edwards road birmingham
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	31 Dec 2012 12:05
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Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 18,042 Send Message	MarieCeleste	Report	31 Dec 2012 12:04
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 18,042 Send Message	Those attestation papers dated 22 March 1912 appear to show that he was joining the Royal Regiment of Artillery but was already a serving member of 6th Bttn Royal Warwickshire. Quite possible that previous service records are missing. Where was he on 1911 census?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	31 Dec 2012 11:57
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Looks like he was already serving with the 6th Battalion when he attested to the Artillery in 1912. The 6th would have been a local unit to him at home and part time, given his occupation is listed as labourer, unless called to do otherwise (like the Territorials today). Google for info. There are not many pages of his papers, possibly the code for discharge was on a summary page and the reasons why are on pages lost? I think it might say 392(xv) A (then KR for Kings Regulations)
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 11:38
	thanks mary but if ill health think would say zena
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Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 446 Send Message	MarysRoots	Report	31 Dec 2012 10:58
	Maybe he was injured or ill It could be a medical discharge?? Mary
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Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 10:53
	but kath he didnt even do a year with them zena
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Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 10:51
	sorry reggie 1912 born 1893 birmingham zena
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	31 Dec 2012 10:50
	Have a look here:- http://www.crichparish.co.uk/WW1roll/WW1records/para392A.html This gives you all the reasons for being discharged. You will see that paragraph 392(xv) means that he was discharged free as he had completed a certain number of years. Kath. x
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,513 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	31 Dec 2012 10:47
	You haven't given any time-scale You could try the National Archives site...........google for URL
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	31 Dec 2012 10:41
	hi help please i have found on family search.org philip dawson 68862 6th bat royal warwicks reg short service record 276 days discharged on paragraph 392(xv) it also mentions royal regiment of artillary does this mean he swopped from one to the other and how could i find out thanks zena
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