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Mary j Carruthers or Symington

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Kim Annette

Kim Annette Report 14 Jan 2013 20:02

hi all.. i hava a Jacob Caldwell born 1905 married in 1929 but it states his wife to be as Mary j Carruthers or Symington. Have tried to find Mary J using both names but no luck... any help would be greatly appreciated... :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jan 2013 20:09

So she was evidently a Carruthers who was previously married to a Symington or vice versa. Look for a Carruthers/Symington marriage with a first name Mary J.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jan 2013 20:12

There are 6 Caldwell births with MMN Symington in Newcastle-on-Tyne between 1931-1946. So her maiden name was evidently Symington and she was previously married to a Carruthers.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 14 Jan 2013 20:14

Do you know of any children born of the marriage?
Freebmd shows possible births of offspring with each of those surnames as mother's maiden name, but one looks more likely than the other.

Do you know when Mary died?
If it was after 1969, her birthdate should show on her death registration.

Gwyn

Kim Annette

Kim Annette Report 14 Jan 2013 20:15

margee.....didnt even think of a previous marriage... what a nutter i am...

patchem

patchem Report 14 Jan 2013 20:16

Is this Jacob's death, and do you know if Mary married again?
Jacob Caldwell
Birth Date: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1951
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 1b
Page: 72

Added?
Mary Jane Caldwell
Birth Date: 27 Feb 1906
Date of Registration: Aug 1991
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Volume: 2
Page: 335

Mary Jane Caldwell
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1899
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1980
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Gateshead
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Volume: 2
Page: 0054

Kim Annette

Kim Annette Report 14 Jan 2013 20:21

patchem... that is jacobs death....

so she was older than him... could be her death.. i will go back over my stuff again....

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jan 2013 20:22

Uh oh! There were also 2 Caldwell births in Newcastle with MMN Carruthers in 1930 and 1933.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

patchem

patchem Report 14 Jan 2013 20:22

Looks more like a Carruthers..
Births Jun 1906
Carruthers Mary Jane Gateshead 10a 1012

Kim Annette

Kim Annette Report 14 Jan 2013 20:25

margee.. got the kids.. jacob AGAIN and George.....

found the mary jane carruthers in 1906 which seemed to match but cant find her any earlier......

i think i am getting obsessed......

:-D :-D :-D

patchem

patchem Report 14 Jan 2013 20:26

Father's name from marriage certificate....

Kim Annette

Kim Annette Report 14 Jan 2013 20:29

yea i think might have to be Patchem...