Genealogy Chat

I believe the above to be my GG grandfather. He is on my g grandmothers marriage certificate as deceased in 1902. Sarah Ann Woolley (his daughter) 23 married William Taylor 20 at St Peter's Church Belper Derbys in Sept 1st 1902.

I am looking for Edwin's wife and family. There are lots of puzzles.
Also looking for Sarah Ann's place of birth. Current family chat claims she was in service in Melbourne Derbys, but there are an awful lot of Sarah Ann Woolleys out there!
Anybody got any ideas :-S
Thanks Sue

Have you found Sarah and husband 1911 Susan? You could do with her birthplace.
Jan

Hello Susan, is there an address given for Sarah Ann on the marriage certificate?

Who were the witnesses?

Did it give a former occupation for her father?

?does occ match for William?


1911 England Census
Name: Sarah Taylor
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leineerter, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Belper
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: Field Head Terrace Belper Derbyshire
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Belper
Registration District Number: 436
Sub-registration district: Belper

William Taylor 28 Tish (Fish!) Market
Sarah Taylor 31
Lilley May Taylor 8
Willie Taylor 6
Harry Taylor 4
Ida Taylor 9/12

Wondering about this - the children are both Woolley so look like stepchildren:

1891 England Census
Name: Sarah Ward
[Sarah Woolley]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Ward
Mother's Name: Cecelia E Ward
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Melbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Melbourne
County/Island: Derbyshire

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Melbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2720
Folio: 45
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
George Ward 26
Cecelia E Ward 34
Sarah Ward 13
John Ward 8

Thanks! Willie is my grandad!! with his siblings Ida, Harry, I do not remember a Lily May. Sarah's husband was William Taylor aged 20 at the time of the marriage
Willie (Bill) as he was known always used to talk about a Cecelia from Leicester!
This is very interesting!
Field Head Terrace Belper is on the marriage cert, and yes he was a fish hawker.
Also Sarah was living at King Street Belper
The witnessess were George Ward!! and a Hannah Blount.
But who is Edwin Woolley who is on the marriage cert and deceased!!!

Well, it looks like the Woolley/Ward family is the right one.
Now we know that, it seems a good idea to look for Cecilia and Sarah in 1881.
Jan

Edwin Woolley whoever he might be is down as a labourer.

My Grandad used to talk about his gradmother being in service in Melbourne and finding her photo on a pub wall! Sadly I do not have the photo and he died a few years ago! :-)

Got the marriage for Cecilia I think - no middle initial but nevertheless?:

Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
Ward George Shardlow 7b 696a
WOOLLEY Celia Shardlow 7b 696a

Jan

States married 22 years which would fit with 1888 marriage above:

1911 England Census
Name: Cecilia Ward
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Melbourne, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Melbourne
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: Quick Close Melbourne Derbyshire
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Shardlow
Registration District Number: 434
Sub-registration district: Melbourne

George Ward 45
Cecilia Ward 55
Lily Ward 18

Oh dear - what does this mean I wonder!

1901 England Census
Name: John Middleton
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Celia Ward
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Newton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Melbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Melbourne
County/Island: Nottinghamshire

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Melbourne

George Ward 36
Celia Ward 41
Lily Ward 8
John Middleton 19

Maybe???

1881 England Census

Name: Sarah W. Nolly
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Melbourne
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Kings Newton Derby Road

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Melbourne

Frederick Middleton 52
Cecelia Middleton 25 born Melbourne
Frederick W. Nolly 4
Sarah W. Nolly 2

Oh lord it looks like my old grandad was right. He insisted there was a Cecelia and her last name was Middleton, in the picture!

I can't see a marriage for a Celia/Cecilia Middleton to an Edwin Woolley - but it very much looks like we have found her doesn't it.
Jan

This is all very interesting!! I wonder though if Sarah aged 13 was in service to the Wards, but George was a witness at her wedding!
It all seems to fit with what Grandad used to say!

Sue

Sarah was not in service to the Wards as she was recorded as daughter.
I suspect she might have been born to Ceclia Middleton and Edwin Woolley but they never married, as she seems to be the Sarah in 1881 with Cecilia still a Middleton.
Just speculation though!
Jan

I found a Sarah Ward ages ago, but didn't think it was my Sarah!
I found an Edwin Woolley marriage to a Emma Hootton or Horton and thought this was the same guy!

Sue