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Finding Births in early 1800's

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Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Feb 2013 17:36

I am tracing the my family tree, currently doing The Mapston / Mapstones.
I know of a couple of relatives born 1815 & 1817, but trying to find the birth & death records comes up with nothing as if they didn't exist..

Do the records go back this far?

TIA
Karen :-S

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 5 Feb 2013 17:41

Have you tried looking at relevant parish records?

Try: https://familysearch.org/

Civil registration in England and Wales did not begin until 1837. You will not therefore be able to find Birth, Marriage and Death certificates for events that took place before 1837.

Researching:
Don't put off until tomorrow doing what you can do today. If you like doing it today you can do it again tomorrow. Be kind to your children for it is they who will decide which care home you end up in.

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 5 Feb 2013 18:24

which area were they in?? I just looked on familysearch and got over 15,000 hits from 1800-1810... give more details so we can try to help.

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etches ashbourne, morgans and hodges

Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Feb 2013 19:40

Thanks..

I am looking for birth records for Reuben Mapstone born 1817/1820 in Somerset. also his wife married 25th April 1838, Sarah Godfrey born 1815 in Long Ashton.

My Mum thinks Reuben was born 1817 but according to the 1841 census he was 20, making him born in 1820.. but still can't find anything..

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Feb 2013 20:02

don't forget ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years in 1841. So if he was 23 (born 1817) he would show as 20 on that census

have you found him on any other census?

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Feb 2013 20:09

a tree on ancestry has this information but beware - they are not necessarily accurate!


Birth: Dec 1817 - Somerset
Marriage: 25 Apr 1838 - Compton Martin, Somerset, Eng (England)
Death: 18 Oct 1849 - Somerset
Parents: Henry Mabstone, Martha Loscombe
Spouse: Sarah Godfrey

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

safc

safc Report 5 Feb 2013 20:30

County Somerset
Place Compton Martin
Church St Michael the Archangel
RegisterNumber 3
MarriageDate 25 Apr 1838
GroomForename Reuben
GroomSurname MAPSTONE
GroomAge
GroomParish Compton Martin
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Compton Martin
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname GODFREY
BrideAge
BrideParish Compton Martin
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename (deceased)
GroomFatherSurname (deceased)
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename George
BrideFatherSurname GODFREY
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Thos.
WitnessOneSurname JEFFERIES
WitnessTwoForename James
WitnessTwoSurname SHERBORNE
Notes
FileNumber 12385

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safc

safc Report 5 Feb 2013 20:34

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County Somerset
Place Compton Martin
Church St Michael the Archangel
RegisterNumber 110
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 10 Dec 1817
Forename Rueben
Sex M
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Martha
FatherSurname MAPSTON
MotherSurname
Abode Compton
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 12406

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Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Feb 2013 23:34

Somerset (Compton Martin) On-line Parish Clerk may be able to help

http://wsom-opc.org.uk/index.php?id=39&k=298

You can also search PR from the site
http://wsom-opc.org.uk/index.php?id=18

Although PR started to be kept c1538, not all have survived or are legible and intact. Some may still be with the Parishes, others deposited in the County or Diocesan Archives but have not been transcribed nor are on line.

There is always the possibility that your family were Non-conformists, or where RC or even 'didn't bother'! The baptism, if there was one, may be a few years after the birth at the same time as other siblings

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Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Feb 2013 13:17

Thanks everyone..

LancashireAnn.. I wasn't aware they rounded the age down to the nearest 5.. a great bit of advice.. thank you..
Also the info you have given regarding Reuben is correct, I have his parents as Henry & Martha Loscombe..

Also thanks for the link for the Somerset Parish clerk..

Will keep you informed on how I get on..

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Feb 2013 13:47

There is this death in Gloucestershire which is a possible:-


Name: MAPSTONE, Reuben
Registration district: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1849
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 11
Page no: 131

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Feb 2013 13:52

Is this Sarah as a widow in 1851 census? :-

1851 census transcription details for: The Coomb, Compton Martin

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1938
Folio: 38
Page: 19
Reg. District: Clutton
Sub District:
Parish: Compton Martin
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: The Coomb, Compton Martin
County: Somersetshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

MAPSTONE, Sarah Head W F 37 1814 Working At The Mines
Long Ashton, Somerset
MAPSTONE, Charlotte Dau F 12 1839 Scholar
Compton Martin, Somerset
MAPSTONE, James Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Compton Martin, Somerset
MAPSTONE, Henry Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Compton Martin, Somerset
MAPSTONE, Charles Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Compton Martin, Somerset
MAPSTONE, George Son M 2 1849
Compton Martin, Somerset

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Feb 2013 13:57

A couple of possible deaths for Sarah:-


Name: MAPSTONE, Sarah
Registration district: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1861
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 27

OR:-

Name: MAPSTONE, Sarah Jane
Registration district: Clutton
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1863
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 496

Kath. x

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Feb 2013 21:26

Thanks Kathleen.. Yes that was Sarah as a widow in the 1851 census. I have all that info..
The deaths aren't her though, found out she married again, twice.. To a George gallop in 1857 then again in 1864 to a William Hawkins..