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I too spent ages (years in fact) trying to find my maternal grandparents marriage in New Ross and even tried Dublin to no avail

Imagine my surprise when on the off chance late last year I just entered their names in FreeBMD and up they popped having married in Hampshire!!!

Thanks but I think I have already ruled out this marriage

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MURPHY William MURPHY Bridget Toxteth Park, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_TP/7/200

I cannot find the 1881 family on any later census. The only one I can find any reference to is a Barth who went to America from Queenstown in 1914. Possibly the whole family returned to Wexford

I can't find them in 1891 so I think maybe the Liverpool marriage is the wrong one too. But it is always worthwhile discounting it when you are dealing with such common Irish names.

Yes this is the same info I have thanks guys.

Still not.convinced with the Liverpool marriage

Hope this helps Erin

Anastasias baptism gives her birth date as 1894 so I am assuming that this is the family. William and Bridget both born Wexford

Name: Anastasia Murphy
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Kirkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 48 Flinders St Liverpool
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 22471
Household Members:
Name Age
Hilliam Murphy 50
Briaget Murphy 50
Mary Murphy 19
Anastasia Murphy 17
James Murphy 15
Lawrence Murphy 10
Michael O'Malley 30
Bridget O'Malley 21
Michael Joseph O'Malley 1

and the 1901. Elizabeth the eldest daughter was born in Ireland

Name: Elizabeth Murphy
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Murphy
Mother's name: Bridget Murphy
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Name Age
William Murphy 40
Bridget Murphy 37
Elizabeth Murphy 11
Mary A Murphy 9
Statia Murphy 7
James Murphy 4
William Murphy 1
John Lower 59
Lilly Lower 15

Lianne,,,,Which Census do you have "your family"....? Can you post details on here for ref.

have found Edward J Mack and Mary Mack in liverppol on the 1891 census with their first child. looking like Bridget and William did Marry. However how can I confirm if itnis the correct couple. I am doubting it due to the location a few miles for where the family resided in later years, also their eldest child was born in wexford. All the children born in Liverpool were baptized at St Alphonsus in Kirkdale.

Any tips on how I can nail this down??????

Will look for Other William Murphy and Bridget Murphy Marriages of the correct timesclae for now see if anything pops up.

Defo no DeWitt as I have found Carel Blad DeWitt and Helena J De Witt on the census. cant find the Mack marriage though!!!!!!

I have founf a William Murphy marrying a Bridget Murphy At St Patricks Church in Liverpool in 1887, however this is a few miles away on the other side of the city center to where the family is living in 1894 and to the potential Bridget address in1881!!!! Maybe not afterall.

I had presumed they were married in ireland as their eldest daughter was born there in 1890!!

I cant find Athelstan terrace or burnet street on the 1901 map of liverpool however The church of St James the Less in several streets away from where William and Bridget are living in the 1901 and 1911 census' and on the address recorded on their daughter Anastasia's birth certificate. Promising!!!!! Although none of the names of her siblings listed above were carried on in Bridgets and Williams children.

Probably need to look for a Bridget Mack or Bridget DeWitt to be sure. many thanks.

On another note, would it be ususal for a couple to go back to ireland for the birth of a child or to visit in the 1880's. I dont think they were very well off people???

Married in Lancashire??

Name: MURPHY, William
Registration district: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1887
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 493
MarriageFinder: William Murphy married one of the following people:

GARDNER, Helena Jane
MCAUSLAN, Mary Ann
>>>MURPHY, Bridget
DE WITT, Carel Blad
MACK, Edward John


Is this Bridget with her parents in 1881

1881 census transcription details for: 4, Athelstan Ter Burnet St, Liverpool

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3600
Folio: 59
Page: 46
Reg. District: Liverpool
Sub District: St Martin
Parish: Liverpool
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Athelstan Ter Burnet St, Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MURPHY, Patrick Head Married M 50 1831 Dock Labourer
Wexford, Ireland
MURPHY, Margaret Wife Married F 48 1833
Wexford, Ireland
>>MURPHY, Bridget Daughter Single F 15 1866
Wexford, Ireland
MURPHY, John Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Wexford, Ireland
MURPHY, Lucy Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Wexford, Ireland
MURPHY, Ruth Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Wexford, Ireland
MURPHY, Thomas Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Wexford, Ireland
MURPHY, Barth Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Wexford, Ireland

I know that William Murphy married Bridget Murphy (maiden name was also murphy) circa 1888 probaby in Wexford. They are both from exford and first child was born in Wexford in 1890, second child and subsequent children born in Liverpool). Have searched all the avenues I know for their marriage but come up with nothing??

Any Tips or help welcome, Thanks