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Barbara
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9 May 2013 10:24 |
I would like to make contact with any researcher that has Mary Elizabeth Hannah WARWICK in their family tree as I have a collection of portrait photographs that I found in a Antique shop, one being of the above Mary aged 9 years. This photograph was taken by A & G Taylor photographers in London. Amongst the collection are photo's taken in England, Australia and New Zealand, many of them would be pre 1900. A majority of the English photos are taken in Peckham and only a few have names or messages written.
I am not sure if this is the appropriate Chat site for the above query.
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9 May 2013 10:41 |
Hi Barbara
You would do best to search the trees on here, if you then find a connection you can send the tree owner a message
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9 May 2013 11:27 |
The only birth coming up
Births Dec 1870 ------ WARWICK Mary Elizabeth H - Holborn 1b 627
Name: Mary Elizabeth Hannah Warwick Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1870 Father's Name: Alfred Warwick Mother's Name: Mary Warwick Parish or Poor Law Union: St Bride Fleet Street Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
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9 May 2013 11:33 |
1871
Alfred Warwick 42 Mary Warwick 41 Lydie E M Warwick 4 Mary E N Warwick- 7 Months ( original says H not N
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9 May 2013 11:38 |
Sadly looks like Mary's sister died as a child
Name: Lydia Elizabeth Mary Warwick Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1867 Father's Name: Alfred Warwick Mother's Name: Mary Warwick Parish or Poor Law Union: St Bride Fleet Street Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Lydia Elizabeth M Warwick Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1871 Age at Death: 4 Registration district: Holbron Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 444
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9 May 2013 11:43 |
Looks like Alfred named his eldest daughter after his mother
Name: Alfred Warwick Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Mar 1829 Father's Name: Charles Anthong Warwick Mother's Name: Lydia Warwick Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 16:52 |
Census 1911
Address: 67 Ramsden Road Balham S W County: London
BARON, James Head Married M 54 1857 Club Butler Gloucestershire Newent BARON, Lydia E Wife Married F 51 1860 London St Brides Fleet ST BARON, Margaret E Daughter Single F 32 1879 Assistant Manageress Aerated Bread Co London Westminster BARON, Henry J W Son Single M 16 1895 Junior Clerk London St Georges Hanover Square BARON, Lydia V Daughter F 12 1899 At School London St Georges Hanover Square WARWICK, Mary E H Cousin Single F 40 1871 London Clerkenwell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
The Barons, married 17 yrs, 3 children born of the marriage, two livng, one deceased.
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 16:56 |
Looks like it was Lydia who was Mary's cousin
Census 1911 said James and Lydia had been married 17 yrs
Name: James Baron widower, confectioner. Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Age: 35 Spouse Name: Lydia Emma Warwick<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse Age: 35 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Dec 1893 Parish: Hornsey Rise Borough: Islington Father Name: William Baron - parish clerk Spouse Father Name: Joseph Warwick - stationer Register Type: Parish Register
Mary Elizabeth Hannah Warwick was a witness as was a Joseph Warwick (can't read his middle name).
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 17:02 |
So it looks like these two Baron children from census 1911 are Mary's first cousins once removed:
BARON, Henry J W Son Single M 16 1895 Junior Clerk London St Georges Hanover Square BARON, Lydia V Daughter F 12 1899 At School London St Georges Hanover Square
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 17:05 |
Looks like Henry J W Baron married and lived a long life::
Name: Henry Joseph William Baron - clerk P.L.A. Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Age: 26 Spouse Name: Hilda May Barry Spouse Age: 27 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Jun 1921 Parish: Kensington St Philip Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: James Baron - club steward Spouse Father Name: Richard Edmund Barry - tailor Register Type: Parish Register
FreeBMD
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
has two possible Baron sons mmn Barry born Wandsworth 1924 & 1926.
Death:
Name: Henry Joseph W Baron Birth Date: 14 Oct 1894 Date of Registration: Sep 1990 Age at Death: 95 Registration district: Lewes Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 18 Page: 1135
and death of wife:
Name: Hilda May Baron Birth Date: 29 May 1893 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1981 Age at Death: 88 Registration district: Eastbourne Inferred County: East Sussex Volume: 18 Page: 0453
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 17:17 |
Mary's death in similar location to that of her cousin's son and his wife?
Name: Mary E H Warwick Birth Date: abt 1871 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958 Age at Death: 87 Registration district: Eastbourne Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 5h Page: 338
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 22:25 |
Have pmed the trail to a possible great grandson of Lydia Warwick, Mary's cousin, as I'm not sure how many people in the chain might still be living.
There may well be closer relatives, I just followed this link and found what I believe is a current address.
EDIT: At least one person has Lydia Warwick on their GR tree, and a few might have her son Henry Baron 1894 on their tree.
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 22:57 |
According to a tree on Ancestry, Lydia Warwick Baron's daughter Lydia Violet (mentioned in census 1911 posted earlier), went to Australia at some point and returned, married and died in England .
It cites these records
Name: Lydia V Baron Birth Date: abt 1898 Age: 32 Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia Arrival Date: 11 Aug 1930 Port of Arrival: Hull, England Ports of Voyage: Melbourne [Colombo] [Sydney] [Adelaide] [Southampton] Ship Name: Moreton Bay Search Ship Database: View the 'Moreton Bay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line Official Number: 130169
Marriage:
Name: Lydia V Baron Spouse Surname: Perkins Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1933 Registration district: Aylesbury Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 3605
Spouse: William E Perkins Baron Jul-Aug-Sep 1933 Aylesbury Buckinghamshire
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Name: Lydia Violet Perkins Birth Date: 22 Apr 1898 Date of Registration: Jun 1990 Age at Death: 92 Registration district: Hastings and Rother Inferred County: East Sussex Volume: 18 Page: 712
According to the tree a son was born to the marriage.
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Kucinta
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9 May 2013 23:02 |
Looks like Lydia V went out on 1925:
Name: Miss Lydia V BARON Date of departure: 11 September 1925 Port of departure: London Destination port: Melbourne Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age) Age: 27 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: Teacher Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 10 of 21 Ship: DIOGENES Official Number: 144814 Master's name: A D Young Steamship Line: Aberdeen Line Where bound: Australia Square feet: 13143 Registered tonnage: 7339.2 Passengers on voyage: 665
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Barbara
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10 May 2013 01:05 |
Thank you Kucinta for that research. I will send the person you mentioned a letter as these photos are actually in New Zealand. I also came to the conclusion that Mary EH WARWICK died a single woman. But there may be extended family still in Australia or NZ.
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