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hi thank you for all your help all i know is i found the cornwall training ship ADM188 seamens service record it came uop with oswald owen/turner age 25 crt date 12 jan 1909 it says oswald was on this ship thank you for all those kind enough to give up there time to help me im really gratefull xx

Death

Name: TURNER, Oswald
Registration district: Essex South Western
County: EssexYear of registration: 1961
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:78
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 156

TURNER CATHERINE ALICE MARY
Burial date 3 Dec 1928
Authority London Borough of Newham
West Ham Cemetery

(above Burial on below)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
DEWDNEY Mary Ann Watford 3a 711
OWEN Henry Watford 3a 711 ************
Robinson John Watford 3a 711
TURNER Mary Ann Watford 3a 711 ************

1891 census

Person: OWEN, Oswald Address: 144, High Street, Hackney

OWEN, Henry Head Married M 45 1846 Fish Dealer
London VIEW
OWEN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 38 1853
Monmouthshire VIEW
OWEN, Olive Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Camberwell, Surrey VIEW
OWEN, Jessie Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Clerkenwell, London VIEW
OWEN, Minnie Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Bermondsey, London VIEW
OWEN, Oswald Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Bow, London VIEW
OWEN, Horace Wm Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Bermondsey, London VIEW
OWEN, Albert Victor Son M 3 1888 Scholar
Bermondsey, London VIEW
OWEN, William John Son M 0 (7M) 1891
Homerton, London VIEW
BENSTEAD, Edward Boarder Married M 46 1845 Fish Dealer
Arundel, Sussex

1901 census


Person: OWEN, Oswald Institution: "cornwall", River Thames Off Purfleet

OWEN, Oswald Inmate Under Rep Act Ch 29-30 Single M 17 1884 Navvy For The Sea Men
Bow, London

First name: Oswald
Last name: Owen Or Turner
Age: 25Year of birth: 1884
Occupation: Painter
Date the court session started: 12 Jan 1909
Area of court: Essex
Record source: Central Criminal Court: After Trial Calendars of Prisoners
The National Archives reference: CRIM9/55
There is 1 image available for this record

Attempting to enter the premises of Home & Colonial Stores, with intent to steal.

Jury Verdict.......Not Guilty.

A number of previous convictions between 1902 and 1908 resulting in custodial sentences.....one as Oswald Turner - 3 as Oswald Owen (1 for theft, 1 for damage, 2 for assault)...........plus 4 minor Summary convictions for damage etc

Deaths Dec 1928 (>99%)
Turner Catherine A M 43 W.Ham 4a 16


Marriages Mar 1930 (>99%)
Beck Emily H Turner W. Ham 4a 480
Turner Oswald Beck W.Ham 4a 480

Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)

Richardson Catherine A M Turner W.Ham 4a 565
Turner Oswald Richardson W.Ham 4a 565

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
Turner Oswald Mile End 1c 547

Is this him?

1911 census

Person: TURNER, Oswald Address: 2 Holttum Place Church St West Ham E

TURNER, Oswald Head Married M 27 1884 Dock Labourer Midsx Bow VIEW
TURNER, Kathrine Wife Married5 years F 26 1885 Edmondton Midsx VIEW
TURNER, William Son M 4 1907 West Ham Essex VIEW
TURNER, Horace Son M 1 1910 Plaistow Essex VIEW
TURNER, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1910 Plaistow Essex VIEW

Can't identify him in any earlier census

Occupations are recorded on censuses.......and on marriage certs, and children's birth certs

Susan doesn't appear to have put her tree on GR, so no clues about birth location

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/IS/

Amongst the Reformatory ships were........the Cornwall on the Thames at Purfleet

What record have you found to know that he was there? As Purfleet is in Essex, the Essex Archive (SEAX) might be the place to start for records. Failing that the Archives more closely associated with his family home

Where was Oswald born so that we can look for him on census? There may be a newspaper article about him on this site or the Bristish Newspaper Archive.

How do you know what jobs your Ancestors did?
Look for them on census, purchase all the BMD you can afford.
Look for baptism and burial records.

Depending on the area, you'll probably find an awful lot of labourers or Agricultural Labourers.

There is some information about the training ships here:-

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/trainingships/

Not sure where you might find records though.
Kath. x

my great grandad oswald turner born in 1883 was put on the boat the cornwall apparently this was a reform ship how can i find records that he was there how can i find the jobs my ancestors did thank you