Genealogy Chat

I have found on some of the census that it states my husbands ancestor was born in Lambeth ... but he says that he was told that his grandfather was born in Cork, Ireland !!!

Would the death certificate have the correct place of birth on it???

It would only have the information as supplied by the informant of death - it is possible that the infomant didn't know the whereabouts of birth and assumed that they were born Lambeth!!

That`s what I thought Lynne .... thanks for answering so quickly.

I have an ancestor who was born in different places on different census returns.

Cork
Warrington & Lambeth

He was in fact from Warrington.

And as said before, unless the person who registered the death knew his birth details a lot is guesswork.

Also if they said they were not born in the parish they would'nt get parish releif if needed at any time. If they were born outside the parish and needed releif they were sent back to where they came from.

Thanks for all your answers ....

Have you looked for a birth in Lambeth?

Death certs don't give place of birth and in any case the info on a death cert is only as good as the informants knowledge of the deceased

I would tend to go on the census info as it is a written document rather than family myths and legends which often have some truth in them but often get attributed to another family member over time.

Roy

I thought more recent death certs gave place of birth if known?

Wonder what my grandmothers says? she insisted she was born in Ireland....she probably didn't know where it was :-D

Edit- from Wikipedia

England and Wales[edit source]

In England and Wales, compulsory national registration of deaths began in 1837. Originally the death registration listed when and where a person died, their name and surname, the parent or parents (if the deceased was a child), sex, age, occupation, cause of death, the description and residence of the informant, when the death was registered and the registrar's signature. Further details have since been recorded including the deceased's date and place of birth, maiden surnames and other former surnames of women who have been divorced.

Beginning in 1879, a doctor’s certificate was necessary for the issuance of a death certificate (prior to that, no cause of death needed to be given

Death certificates do now give place of birth, but I think this is only since 1969.

You need earlier census or even earlier parish records to hopefully find the man with his birth family.
Census are not always correct, even when parents give information about their childre.
I have a couple who in 1901 state that their 10years old son was born in a Herefordshire village, not far from the present address.
I have a copy of his birth certificate showing him born in the same house as my grandmother in the South Wales valleys.

It is best to try to find at least 2 pieces of evidence to back up your information.

Gwyn

My grandparents died together in 1969 so there were only their children to register their deaths with what ever lies they had been told over the years....not sure if the Irish connection was believed or not