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From: maurice cain
3:12 PM
Many Thanks for your help

Maurice Cain

U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project) about Douglas Barr Cain
Name: Douglas Barr Cain
[Douglas Barr Rennie]
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1917
Birth Place: Aberdeen, Scotland
Age at event: 27
Court District: Alaska
Date of Action: 1 Jul 1944

Name changed by decree of court from Douglas Barr Rennie, as a part of the naturalisation.

New York, Naturalization Records, 1882-1944 about Charles Rennie
Name: Charles Rennie
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1911
Birth Place: Aberdeen, Scotland
Arrival Year: 1928
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Event Date: 28 Mar 1939
Event Place: New York, USA
Court: Southern District, New York

Auburn hair, blue eyes, fair complexion, height 5' 2", weight 125 lbs.

Helen's other son Charles arriving in USA:


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Charles Rennie
Name: Charles Rennie
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1928
Birth Date: abt 1912
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: aberdeen
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: California

Occupation: messenger.

Helen's mother & brother's arrival in USA:


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Mary Ann King
Name: Mary Ann King
Arrival Date: 6 May 1929
Birth Date: abt 1869
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: foreran [Mis-spelling of Foveran]
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cameronia
Search Ship Database: Search the Cameronia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


Travelling with Alexander King, age 24, painter, from Aberdeen.

Helen's first marriage to father of Charles and Douglas?

1910 RENNIE CHARLES
KING HELEN ANN
ST MACHAR ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/02 0301

Frederick in 1911:

1911 England Census
Frederick James Cain
Age in 1911:37
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874
Relation to Head:Son
Birth Place:Bow Street, London, England
Civil Parish:West Ham
County/Island:Essex
Street Address:
65 Beckton Road, Canning Town
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Butcher, shopman
Registration District:West Ham

Elizabeth Hughes Cain 65, widow, b Clerkenwell
Frederick James Cain 37

New York, Naturalization Records, 1882-1944
about Frederick James Cain




Name:
Frederick James Cain

Birth Date:
5 Dec 1874

Birth Place:
England

Arrival Year:
1923

Naturalization Record Type:
Petition for Naturalization

Event Date:
14 Sep 1923

Event Place:
New York, USA

Court:
Southern District, New York

Frederick Cain, "United States Census, 1940"
Name: Frederick Cain
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Assembly District 16, Manhattan, New York City, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 68
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1872
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
District: 31-1428
Family Number: 234
Sheet Number and Letter: 11A
Line Number: 7
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 2657
Digital Folder Number: 005458629
Image Number: 01024
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Frederick Cain M 68 England
Wife Helen Cain F 54 Scotland
Son John Cain M 30 New York

Frederick J Cain, "United States Census, 1930"
Name: Frederick J Cain
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Manhattan (Districts 0501-0750), New York, New York, United States
District: 0743
Gender: Male
Age: 58
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1872
Birthplace: England
Immigration Year: 1923
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Sheet Number and Letter: 15B
Household ID: 413
Line Number: 90
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T626
Affiliate Film Number: 1569
GS Film number: 2341304
Digital Folder Number: 004638855
Image Number: 00199
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Frederick J Cain M 58 England
Wife Helen Cain F 43 Scotland
Stepson Herbert King M 21 Scotland
Stepson Charles Renny M 18 Scotland
Stepson Douglas Renny M 14 Scotland
Mother-in-law Mary A King F 62 Scotland
Brother-in-law Alexander King M 24 Scotland

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Helen Cain
Name: Helen Cain
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1926
Birth Date: abt 1887
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: aberdeen
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caledonia
Search Ship Database: Search the Caledonia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Housewife.
Nearest relative in Scotland: Mother: Mary Ann King, 48 Upper Denburn.

Listed next to her:
Herbert Jack King, apprentice baker, age 17, from Aberdeen. Nearest relative in Scotland: Grandmother: Mary Ann King

ADDED:
Also Douglas Rennie, age 9, scholar, from Aberdeen.

New York, Naturalization Records, 1882-1944 about Helen Ann Cain
Name: Helen Ann Cain
[Helen Ann]
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1886
Birth Place: Scotland
Arrival Year: 1926
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Event Date: 1 Jul 1926
Event Place: New York, USA
Court: Southern District, New York
Spouse's Name: Frederick
Children: Herbert, Charles, Douglas

PM received from Maurice:
"My grandfather Fredrick James Cain I believed married Helen King then he emigrated to the USA I believe in about 1920 ."

Found:
1917 CAIN FREDERICK JAMES
KING HELEN ANN
ST NICHOLAS ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/01 0674



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Frederick J Cain
Name: Frederick J Cain
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1875
Departure Date: 28 Aug 1923
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Leviathan
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Leviathan' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: United States Mail
Home address: 55 Gallowgate, Aberdeen
Occupation: Labourer

Helen wasn't travelling with him.

You will find that a marriage entry on scotlandspeople will give you far more info than an English one. You will be able to view and download an image of the original entry and that will give you both his parents' names (not just his father) and his father's occupation.

It will cost one credit to view the results of the search and another five to view the image, so a lot cheaper than sending for an English cert!

If you care to post your grandparents' names, and an idea of where they were married, perhaps someone can have a look for you.

SP is pay-to-view.............you can purchase 30 credits for £7.00

Hi there
You need the Scotland's People site to find the marriage and any of their children born in Scotland.

I am looking for my grandfather marriage in about 1915