Genealogy Chat

Derek....How lucky you are....!!

MaureeninNY Thank you.
Eringobragh1916 Thank you.
http://luingahg.blogspot.co.uk/p/scottish-friendship-brought-world-fame_7.html

Derek...Not sure what ionfo.you already have/not but you may be able to get further info.re Alastairs family from his Service Records...

Name MARTIN, ALASDAIR
Service Australian Army
Service Number NX14501
Date of Birth 25 Jan 1914
Place of Birth OBAN, SCOTLAND
Date of Enlistment 15 May 1940
Locality on Enlistment WOOLLAHRA, NSW
Place of Enlistment PADDINGTON, NSW
Next of Kin MARTIN, BARBARA
Date of Death 17 Jun 1943
Rank Private
Posting on Death 2/13 AUSTRALIAN INFANTRY BATTALION
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No
Roll of Honour SYDNEY NSW

Maureen I think you are correct....if you look at my post (above yours) there is an indication she was aka Barbara.....

Would this be the same person??

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Barbara Martin
Name: Barbara Martin
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1958
State: New South Wales
District: Phillip
Subdistrict: Bronte
*26 Belgrave Street,Waverley.concert singer
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Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Barbara Martin
Name: Barbara Martin
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Phillip
Subdistrict: Bondi
308 Bondi road,artist,writer,lecturer


Maureen

I have communicated with with Zoe Scott.

Just found the following.....


Portrait of Madame Lul Gardo" [1973048], BUNNY, Rupert -

Displaycollections.ncc.nsw.gov.au/keemu/pages/nrm/Display.php?

"Lul (Varvara or 'Barbara') Gardo was a friend of my grandmother and Aunty Zoe, ... she used 2 names when writing to the Museum - Mme Gardo and Mrs Martin. ... Madame also came out to Australia on a tour in 1923, the newspaper article ..."

3. She married British soldier, a Mr Martin, sometime before WWII. I have a photo of her and her husband and my mother from that period. She wrote a letter to the Powerhouse Museum in 1959 (complaining about how bad her leg was, presumably the one injured by a dum dum bullet), so was alive then. Madame also came out to Australia on a tour in 1923, the newspaper article about this is on the Museum file. So perhaps the portrait was painted this early, certainly not 1917 as she was fighting in Russia then and did not evacuate until 1920, according to her book.

Zoe Scott
Museum Curator

Plenty of interesting info.on the above web site

An amazing woman by all accounts....
Her only child Eugenie died of starvation in a Russian Prison....

Hello Derek, have you done any searches on Trove, the Australian newspaper archives?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/

Searching for Lul Gardo in the digitised newspaper section gives 107 hits with some very good articles.

I love this extract:

"Madame Lul Gardo, the Russian dramatic soprano, was a striking figure in her leopard skin dress, and Russian boots when she disembarked from the Ormonde at Brisbane the other day"

Many thanks, I have Cossack Fury on the way. She was a folk song collector and singer.
http://luingahg.blogspot.co.uk/p/scottish-friendship-brought-world-fame_7.html

Derek...I guess you have seen this....!


Price: Subscribe
Madame Lul Gardo in Peasant Costume
Oil on canvas on pulpboard, 57.9 x 43 cm
Art from the Kerry Stokes Collection, Sotheby's Australia, Sydney.


www.artrecord.com/index.cfm/artist/10949-bunny-rupert-charles...

This must be her...written 1938 but out of print....


Product details
Cossack Fury. The Experiences of a Woman soldier with the White Russians by Lul Gardo (Hardcover - 1938)

Check out "Amazon" shows her on the inset.......

Also this gives details of her escaping to England 1920....

The Russian Civil War 1918-22 - Google Books Resultbooks.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1782005366

Did she also at sometime write Scottish Folk Songs....??

I am amazed at the response to my post and thank you all very much, I have lots of newspaper articles regarding Lul gardo.
I apologise for my lack of genealogical expertise.
Here are some details on Alasdair Martin that I gained from a contact in Australia.
Born 25 January 1914
Oban Scotland
Enlisted for WWII in Paddington, Sydney, NSW
Australian Service number is NX14501
He died, aged 29, on 17 June 1943, apparently s a result of wounds received some time previously.
His headstone is in Sydney’s Rookwood War Cemetery and says:
N14501 PRIVATE
A. MARTIN
2/13 INFANTRY BATTALION
17TH JUNE 1943 AGE 29
DEARLY BELOVED HUSBAND OF
MADAME LUL GARDO.
I presume that they married in Australia.
I myself Live on the Isle of Luing Argyll. 18 miles south of Oban.

I am assuming the OP has this, but it's interesting anyway as it relates to one of the
the Czar's children.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/45581416

I think we'll have to wait till this evening for feedback......................suspect OP is in the Antipodes

How do you know when and where Alasdair was born ?

Getting no hits on SP between 1910 and 1920. Even changing the year to 1880 to 1920 getting no hits

If Alasdair Martin was B 1914 then you would not be able to view his birth details on Scotlandspeople because of the 100 year rule but it would give the details needed to order the cert

Do you have any of the marriage certs?

Suggestions ONLY................assuming birth in 1895 +/- 5yrs, and being resident in Argyllshire

1901 census

Person: MACINTYRE, James Address: Craigard Road, Kilmore & Kilbride, Oban

MACINTYRE, Lachlan Head Married M 36 1865 Tailor
Ardnamurchan G & E, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Maggie Wife Married F 34 1867
Oban G & E, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Maggie Daughter F 11 1890 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Christina Daughter F 10 1891 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, James Son M 7 1894 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Mary Daughter F 5 1896 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Sarah Daughter F 3 1898
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Ann Daughter F 1 1900
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
CAMPBELL, Ann Niece Single F 20 1881 Gen Serv (Dom)
Kilmore & Kilbride G & E, Argyllshire

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1901 census


Person: MACINTYRE, James Address: Ben Cruachan Quarries, Ardchattan & Muckairn

MACINTYRE, Archibald Head Married M 37 1864 Locomotive Engine Driver
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Catherine Wife Married F 31 1870 Locomotive Engine Drivers Wife
Ardchattan G & E, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Archibald Son M 10 1891 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Hugh Son M 9 1892 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Peter Son M 7 1894 Scholar
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, James Son M 5 1896
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Dugald Son M 3 1898
Oban, Argyllshire
N/A
MACINTYRE, Henry Son M 0 (UNDER 1 MONTH) 1901
Muckairn, Argyllshire
N/A
FERGUSON, Margaret Mother-In-Law Widow F 56 1845 Formerly House Keeper
Muckairn G & E, Argyllshire

What are you hoping for..................you haven't actually asked a question.

To learn the names of A Martin's parents, you will need to purchase credits on Scotlands people website...........£7.00 will get you 30.

Same site, to find info about James Macintyre. With such a common name, you need to know how old he was when he married, and the names of his parents, to be able to pinpoint him in census records

Researching the above, she was married to James Macintyre c1920, who was probably born in the 1890s. and died probably 1930s. He was an Argyll man possibly born in Oban.
Varvara was a white Russian. born 1896. Also became known as Lul Gardo. She married James on HMS Dublin Limnos.
Also the family of Alasdair Martin Bn 1914 Oban. her third husband, who died in Australia 1943