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Irish Baptism Certs - PI

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Sandie

Sandie Report 27 Oct 2013 12:20

I think it's an abbreviation for Latin, but what does it mean?
Thank you

Gee

Gee Report 27 Oct 2013 13:29

I think PI is Latin or Greek and it stands for 'P'

Would it mean Protestant on a birth certificate?

SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 27 Oct 2013 14:24

Where on the certificate does it come? I think it may be the abbreviation for patri which refers to the father.

Sandie

Sandie Report 27 Oct 2013 14:40

It's listed under comments. The parents do not have the same last name.
Thank you

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2013 14:43

Is the original baptism that you have or a transcription? It was quite common for the mother to be shown with her maiden name.

SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 27 Oct 2013 15:10

I've assumed that this was a Roman Catholic baptism. You could try contacting the Catholic Family History Society and asking them what it means.

http://www.catholic-history.org.uk/cfhs/


SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 27 Oct 2013 15:21

A couple of other ideas that have just come to me - PI could be Pater Ignotus i.e. father unknown; though that doesn't make sense if you have the father's name on the certificate.

Or could it indicate a private baptism? Not sure what the I would stand for but P is sometimes used on English certificates to indicate a private baptism took place.

Sandie

Sandie Report 27 Oct 2013 15:45

Thank you all very much. It's a transcription of a Roman Catholic Baptism. I have found the mother married to a different man some years later. I have heard that some priests named and shamed the natural father..

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Oct 2013 19:51

The abbreviation (Latin) PI...Poni Jussett means "Ordered to be Placed".... it is used in Ecclesiastical Terms (among others) and does imply that both parents were ..shall we say...."encouraged" to have both their names listed on the BC.....!!

Sandie

Sandie Report 27 Oct 2013 22:40

Thank you very much. That's very interesting. Now I am wondering who gave them the encouragement.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Oct 2013 08:43

Sandie....I think you may have already answered your own question (15,45. 27/10)

It was not uncommon for a PP to use their " power of persuasion"....he would have probably known who the father was in most cases.

The use of PI on the Cert. could mean the couple were rather reluctant to comply...

Does the Birth Cert give the same name do you know...?


Sandie

Sandie Report 28 Oct 2013 10:38

The BC just has a line through the father.
Thank you

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Oct 2013 22:26

At least the child would be aware of their father's name from the BC....!