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Thank you so much for all help received. The Irene Halliwell you have found is definitely the right one as the dates and places all add up to what I already know. Will carry on searching. Thanks again.
Lynda

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Thomas Perryman
Name: Thomas Perryman
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1866
Registration District: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 711
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth H Hull
Thomas Perryman**********************
Mary J Sanderson*****************************
Robert Wilson

But..........the births of Irene, and subsequent Halliwell/Perryman children were in Co Durham.

1871 England Census about Jane Mary Perryman
Name: Jane Mary Perryman
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos Perryman***********************************
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bury and Heap
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Bury
Sub-registration District: Birtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household Schedule Number: 37
Piece: 3949
Folio: 84
Page Number: 10
Household Members:


Thos Perryman 1835 Bradwich, Devon***PAPER MAKER**********************SAME AS ON MARRIAGE CERT.

Jane Mary Perryman 24***NAMES ROUND THE OTHER WAY.
Sarah Jane Perryman 3 1868 Hylton, Durham
Wm Perryman 1 born Bathford, Somerset**************

1881 England Census about Mary J. Perryman
Name: Mary J. Perryman
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 19 Fairfield
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration District: Bury
Sub-registration District: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3866
Folio: 83
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary J. Perryman 33 Married*****************
Sarah J. Perryman 13
William Perryman 11
Annie Perryman 7
Louisa Perryman 5
Betrice Perryman 2

1891 England Census about Mary J Perryman
Name: Mary J Perryman
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Bury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: WIDOW

Registration District: Bury
Sub-registration District: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3138
Folio: 122
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary J Perryman 43
Sarah J Perryman 23
William Perryman 21
Annie Perryman 17
Louisa Perryman 15
Beatrice Perryman 12
Mary E Perryman 5

On the 1911 census the address is the same as on the marriage cert for Beatrice Perryman 6 Pine St.

Death

Name: HALLIWELL, Beatrice
Registration district: Durham Eastern
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1943
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:64
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 441

This - and the census - are suggestions ONLY

You need Irene's birth cert to be 100% sure

1911 census

Person: HALLIWELL, Beatrice Address: 6 Pine St Bury Lancashire

PERRYMAN, Mary J Head Widow F 64 1847 Durham Newcastle VIEW
HALLIWELL, Beatrice Daughter Married9 years F 32 1879 Cotton Weaver Lancs Bury VIEW
PERRYMAN, Mary E Daughter Single F 25 1886 Cotton Weaver Lancs Bury VIEW
PERRYMAN, Marion Granddaughter F 11 1900 School Lancs Bury VIEW
HALLIWELL, Elsie Granddaughter F 8 1903 School Lancs Bury VIEW
HALLIWELL, Clifford Grandson M 6 1905 School Lancs Bury

Poss marriage??



Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 about David Halliwell
Name: David Halliwell<<<<<<<Coachman
Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 24 May 1902
Parish: Tottington, St Anne
Parish as it Appears: Tottington
Father's Name: John Halliwell<<<<<<<Labourer
Spouse's Name: Beatrice Perryman
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Perryman <<<<Paper Maker (deceased)
Reference Number: L105/1/4/1
Item Number: 6
Archive Roll: 976

David's address Club Row, Tottington.

Beatrice's address 6, Pine St, Bury.

Witnesses were William Halliwell and Annie Perryman.

All signed their own names.

Hello Lynda and welcome to the community boards.


As you say that you are looking for family members, click on Search above and then on Search all members trees. When you have added the details, you can see if anyone on here as your family in their tree. You have the option of contacting the tree owners.


Also, the members on the community boards are very willing to help you in your search as you can see above. :-)




I will let Lynda know about her replies.

There is no sign anywhere of a marriage between Joseph and Irene, so you will not be able to verify info about their respective fathers......unless they married outside of England/Wales

Could be - (8 miles to Bolton)

Births Dec 1912
Halloway Joseph Houlker Bury 8c 978

Is this the right man?

Death

Name: HALLOWAY, Joseph
Registration district: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1976
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:1 November 1912
Volume no: 38
Page no: 0391

I'll let you look for the birth...................I won't spoil your pleasure

IF and only IF, the death is right.............this is probably her birth

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Halliwell Irene Perryman Easington 10a 1015

Now you can research her antecedents..............and her siblings

Death
Name: HALLOWAY, Irene
Registration district: Dover
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1991
Month of registration: Apri
lDate of Birth:19 October 1913
Volume no: 16
Page no: 1031
Reg no: 491

You can easily find info..........buy a copy of their marriage cert

Have you tried to do any research?

There is a Halloway/Halliwell birth in Co Durham in 1954

No corresponding marriage - had the mother been married before?

Also two pre-WW2 births in Newcastle on Tyne

I am looking for family members on my Dads side of the family who may be able to help me trace my family tree. My Grandfather was Joseph Halloway from Bolton, Lancashire and he married Irene Halliwell, my Grandmother, who I think was from the Newcastle area. Don't have any information further back than my Grandparents on my Dads side but have traced my Mums family back to 1580! Would love to do the same with this search. Any help much appreciated.