Genealogy Chat

Yes, you're right, thanks, so dump that hypothesis. So I wonder what took him back to Bristol? And what is the address at which he died?
10, Redfeld Road Oldland Common
His whole family (parents + siblings) seem to be born in Isleham, Cambs
He goes to Bristol for some reason, marries Hannah Pearce, takes her back with him to Essex, then moves "back" to Bristol.
I suppose the only route to knowing more would be the newspapers on the offchance that something was reported?

Write down what you have in date order.
JAMES PARR
Warminster district 1902 marriage
Romford 1906 Pig in the Pound
Romford district,early 1907,birth of son
Bitton Gloucestershire 22/7/1907 death

Thanks again Chris. Does this imply that the wills are available on Ancestry?

They do say you can start on GR but in the end you'll go to Ancestry ...

Looks as if James died young, and before the birth of his son, that must have been tough for Hannah.

But I'm confused. Pig in the Pound is in Romford, James died in Gloucestershire? Hypothesis: James & Hannah lived in Romford but Hannah went back to her parents to have the baby?

James Parr
Probate Date:
24 Oct 1907
Death Date:
22 Sep 1907
Death Place:
Gloucestershire, England
Registry:
Bristol
(of 10, Redfield Road Oldland Common Bitton beerhouse keeper. Administration to Hannah Emma Parr widow. Effects £130 10s

http://pubshistory.com/EssexPubs/Romford/pigpound.shtml

(above 1906)



Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
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Winter Wilfred A Pearce Bristol 6a 33

(above on Will of Hannah)


Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Pearce Dorothy L Winter Bristol 6a 130
Winter Wilfred V Pearce Bristol 6a 130


Chris :)

(you could take a 14 day trial Ancestry (google) think you'd be busy!)

Brilliant! Thank you Thelma & Chris

Royal is a regularly appearing name in the family. Looks like a dead end, however, as the son died young. Is that your impression too?

And the father, James, has disappeared?

Yes, TW Parr + Edith Tidy were my grandparents.

Thanks for the Jones find too, that was the mother of my father's first wife.

1911
PARR, Hannah Head Widow F 43 1868 Grocer Wilts Sutton Veny
PEARCE, Dorothy Sister Single F 24 1887 Shop Assistant Wilts Chitterne
PARR, Royal Son M 4 1907 Essex Romford
RG number: RG14
Piece: 14870
Reference: RG14PN14870 RG78PN902 RD319 SD2 ED9 SN32
Registration District: Bristol
Sub District: Bristol Central
Enumeration District: 9
Parish: Bristol
Address: 21 St Nicholas Road
County: Gloucestershire


Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
Parr Arthur Royal Romford 4a 553


Deaths Mar 1931 (>99%)
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Parr Arthur R 23 Bristol 6a 141


Deaths Sep 1958 (>99%)
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PARR Hannah 90 Bristol 7b 179


(notes on below, John Royal Parr as witness)

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------- (your Grandparents?)
Parr Thomas William Greenwich 1d 1720
Tidy Edith Louise Greenwich 1d 1720



Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
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BRUCE Jane Mile End 1c 660
Parr John Royal Mile End 1c 660

(Father on above, James Parr)

Chris :)

edits (already posted above, but had a thought!)

(also relating to your 18, Springfield Road, Cambridge, saw the following Burial)

St. Andrew Chesterton
1945 Feb 19 Jones Ada Rose 71 (above address)

Note the sister's name and Wiltshire connection.


All Census & Electoral Rolls Results
1911 England Census about Hannah Parr
Name: Hannah Parr
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sutton Veney, Wiltshire
Civil Parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 21 St Nicholas Road, St Pauls, Bristol
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Grocer
Registration District: Bristol
Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration District: Bristol Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 32
Piece: 14870
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Parr 43
Dorethy Pearce 24
Royal Parr 4

Hey! Bull's eye! Well that's the initial impression, mustn't go overboard ...

James Parr + Hannah Emma Pearce, Warminster 1902

And I have a James Parr as brother of Thomas William, my father's father. So that ties up. Now to check whether this James Parr is my James Parr! Which I think means I need the certificate.

Thanks Thelma!

Pretty good aim for a long shot

Thanks Thelma, that might just be her, at least the dates are in the right ballpark (my father was born 1895).

Is there any way to see the will?

So I need to search for a marriage Something Parr and Hannah Emma Something

Any other possible lines of investigation?

Longshot.
Died Fishpond hospital.
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries View Image
Name: Hannah Parr
Birth: abt 1868
Death: Sep 1958 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Hannah Emma Parr
Name: Hannah Emma Parr(widow)
Probate Date: 24 Oct 1958
Death Date: 6 Sep 1958
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol

Good question Reggie!

I know little about my father, his life, family, etc. It was only a couple of weeks ago that I discovered I once had a half sister!

In his papers I found reference to "Aunt H" and then some time later a "Mrs H Parr" - who may or may not be the same person. In the little I have been able to reconstruct of the family so far, I cannot see a candidate for Aunt H or Mrs H Parr. Logically she has to be one of:

sister of father - but none of them had H as initial
sister of mother - ditto but only for Aunt H
wife of brother of father - open, I haven't researched thoroughly yet
wife of brother of mother - ditto but only for Aunt H
someone unrelated with an "honorary" title of Aunt

So I would like to find first off the full name of "Aunt H". If it's Parr then I'd want to find out where she fits in - if she does. If it's not Parr then I'd like to figure out why she was "Aunt".

What are you trying to find out/prove?

It turns out that the local library has copies of the current electoral roll, the earlier ones are in the archives. However I "met" a couple of very helpful people in the library and in the Records Office - no results as yet but hope springs eternal ...

That's very helpful, thank you, I'll contact them.

http://www.bristol.gov.uk/LibraryViewer?XSL=library&LibraryId=1040

this site will give you contact details for the Fishponds Library

They might do a look up for you but may charge.

Have you tried contacting the library that hold the Electoral rolls for that area they may look for you?

Remember that only people eligible to vote will be listed

Roy

Thank you Pam, that probably means paper records I suppose?

Electoral Registers will probably be held at the main library local to the address.

I have a link to:

"Aunt H, Glen Dale, Ridgeway Road, Fishponds, Bristol"

from my father's papers, this was in 1932 ish.

Is there any way for me (or anyone else who's feeling kind ) to look up the address and find out who was living there?

I note GR only has about the last 10 years of Electoral Rolls, where might I be able to find "all" of them?