Ancestry look up please!

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Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,077 Send Message	Paul Barton, Special Agent	Report	15 Mar 2014 14:56
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,077 Send Message	I think this guy was a notorious murderer and my ancestor stood as a witness in his trial in 1846. However if these records start in 1850 his masters certificate must have been current even though he was residing at Her Majesty's pleasure in Broadmoor! UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 Immigration & Travel Name: George Johnstone Birth: year 1811 city, Caithess
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:13
	Issue date was 1875: UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 about George Johnstone Name: George Johnstone Estimated Age: 64 Birth Date: 1811 Birth Place: Dunnet, Caithess Issue Date: 26 Jul 1875 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 99805
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:15
	??? UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 about George Johnstone Name: George Johnstone Estimated Age: 65 Birth Date: 1811 Birth Place: Dunnet, Caithness Issue Date: 22 Feb 1876 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 01392 UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 about George Johnstone Name: George Johnstone Estimated Age: 64 Birth Date: 1811 Birth Place: Dunnet, Caithess Issue Date: 26 Jul 1875 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 99805
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:16
	1881 England Census about George Johnston Name: George Johnston Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship to Head: Pauper Inmate (Pauper) Gender: Male Where born: Caithness, Scotland Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: "Wandsworth and Clapham Union Workhouse" Marital Status: Widow Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Seaman Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: Wandworth and Clapham Union Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 655 Folio: 145 Page Number: 3 (Huge numbers of inmates)
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:16
	And this one's 1876: UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 about George Johnstone Name: George Johnstone Estimated Age: 65 Birth Date: 1811 Birth Place: Dunnet, Caithness Issue Date: 22 Feb 1876 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 01392 Surely if he was a notorious murdere he would have been hanged in 1846?
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:17
	England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about George Johnstone Name: George Johnstone Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1888 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Poplar Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 398
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:20
	???? 1871 England Census about George Johnstone Name: George Johnstone Age: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Johnstone Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Beccles County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Wangford Sub-registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 55 Piece: 1776 Folio: 36 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age George Johnstone 59 - Merchant Seaman Mary A Johnstone 58
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:25
	Was he the captain of the Tory who hacked 3 seaman to death and was acquitted on the grounds of insanity?
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:31
	London. George Johnstone late master of the ship "Tory" charged with murder of Thomas Reason- seaman and 1st and 2nd mates. Johnstone native of Dunnet. Suspicion of mutiny on board. John O'Groat Journal Friday, 28 November 1845 Trial report of George Johnstone master of ship "Tory" and son of late Wm. Johnston (church elder in Dunnet) guilty but insane. John O'Groat Journal Friday, 13 February 1846 http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/newspapers/search_results.jsp?newspaper=0&PrimarySubject=0&startyear=&endyear=&keywords=murder&StartRow=100&MaxRows=25
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:32
	Part trial report: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/65941859 Makes horrific reading.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,077 Send Message	Paul Barton, Special Agent	Report	15 Mar 2014 15:53
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,077 Send Message	Yes Margee, he's the one and from what we see here his Masters certificate was indeed renewed in 1876. Astonishing really. If you're interested see this... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2340590/Portraits-madness-Some-brilliant-All-compulsion-kill-Broadmoors-inmates-caught-camera.html My ancestor was one of two women who he took as passengers on the ship and Mary Bluett stood as a witness against him.... http://www.lewcock.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=220&Itemid=90&ed=15

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