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Sounds like a good topic for General Chat! ;-)
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AG - intrigued by your post, I did a web search. It seems there's no uniformity of opinion abt humble/honest - both seem to have their proponents.
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mgnv -
No need to be humble.
IMHO, I always thought IMHO meant "in my honest opinion"!
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Thank you Kucinta and mgnv.
Yes, Edward was married to both Susan Martin who died a few weeks after their 3rd child's birth, and then to Susanna Fairbeard (various phonetic spellings), and yes, Frederick Charles was another of the children from the 2nd marriage.
mgnv - I'll print off your instructions for future reference. Thank you for that.
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A general procedure is to do a film # search for 1886146 in the FS catalog - there's a link in the banner bar at:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWQC-8WL
Here, I see:
Authors: Church of England. Parish Church of Faversham (Kent) (Main Author)
No hint of the dedication, but I can search in Lewis (1848):
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445
and find:
FAVERSHAM, or Feversham (St. Mary), a seaport, market-town, and parish, having separate jurisdiction, and the head of a union... etc
another look up excludes another nearby St Mary's:
DAVINGTON (St. Mary Magdalene), a parish, in the union and hundred of Faversham... etc
A search at http://www.geograph.org.uk/ for church near Faversham gets 75 hits, amongst them:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/325423
In the blurb under the pic, one sees:
Subject Location: TR 018 615 [100m precision]
Photographer Location
OSGB36: geotagged! TR 018 614
View Direction: Northwest (about 315 degrees)
Although this is beyond the scope of your query, if you look up the location at:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
[NB search for TR018615, i.e., omit the embedded blanks]
You'll get taken to a map, and embedded in the URL is the old style OS coordinates of the arrow head, viz:
x=601850&y=161550
Clicking on zoom level 4 gets me the same map that there's a tiny inset of at geograph
Streetma's actually placed the arrow head at TR 01850 061550 rather than the TR 01800 061500 I specified - the addition of 50m to the easting and to the northing is supposed to compensate for the "to 100m precision"]
The real point of this Streetmap look up was to discover the magic letters TR stood for the leading digit pair of 6,1.
Anyways, I can now go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html and input the OS coordinates 601850,161550, and view that place on old maps - it's really only worth checking a scale of 1:2500 or larger - 1:10560 is really too small a scale in my opinion. [I nearly said IMHO as I've just figured out what it stood for, but on reflection, I doubt now I'll ever use it - I just don't have humble opinions.]
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Day: 28
Month: Apr
Year: 1869
Forename(s): Sophia Elizabeth
Surname: Allen
Father's Forename(s): Edward
Mother's Forename(s): Susan
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Place: Faversham, St Mary of Charity<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County: Kent
Archive Reference: U3/146/1/5
Year Range: 1812-1873
Record source: Canterbury Baptisms - Transcripts
Data provider: Canterbury Cathedral Archives
Abode: North Lane. Father's occupation: Labr.
She had a brother baptised at the same church:
Day: 26
Month: Jun
Year: 1868
Forename(s): Frederick Charles
Surname: Allen
Father's Forename(s): Edward
Mother's Forename(s): Susanna
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Place: Faversham, St Mary of Charity<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County: Kent
Archive Reference: U3/146/1/5
Year Range: 1812-1873
Record source: Canterbury Baptisms - Transcripts
Data provider: Canterbury Cathedral Archives
Abode: Quay. Father a labr.
Was Edward married twice, both times to Susan/Susannas? First wife Susan Martin married 16th April 1846 Buckland (St Andrew)buried 16th Dec 1849 Buckland (recorded as deceased on baptism of daur Susan 3rd Feb 1850 Buckland). Second wife Susanna Fairbeard married 12th Oct 1851 St Michael Sittingbourne. Edward is described as a brickmaker on both marriage registers.
Wiki entry for St Mary of Charity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faversham_Parish_Church
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Just found this bap on Familysearch. Could anyone work out the name of the church please? I've looked on the Hugh Wallis site but can't make head nor tail of it.
Name: Sophia Elizabeth Allen
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Apr 1869
Christening Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Allen
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Susan
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00406-6
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1886146
Reference ID:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWQC-8WL : accessed 23 Mar 2014), Sophia Elizabeth Allen, 28 Apr 1869; citing Faversham, Kent, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1886146.
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In addition, the last record I have of her is the 1911 census. If anyone can find further records it would be appreciated.
She's one of those awkward ones who swaps their names around
Name: Elizabeth Sophia Allen
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Faversham, Kent
Civil Parish: Sittingbourne
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 117 East Street, Sittingbourne
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Barmaid Unemployed
Registration district: Milton
Registration District Number: 61
Sub-registration district: Milton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 4443
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Allen 79 - (died 1917 in Milton Reg).
Elizabeth Sophia Allen 43
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Probably won't be around for much longer tonight, & will check back in the morning. If I didn't ask now, I'd forget! :-D
Thank you, and goodnight.
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