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thank you so much for confirming - initially at an initial glance I thought I may have had some mystery second marriage to start looking for. Thankfully I haven't :)
thank you for taking the time to help me

Warm regards
Leyther

Yes, I do.
It's too much of a coincidence that she and son John are listed as Mitchell, but not the rest of the children on the next page. It's not even her maiden name, which was Simm(s).

They were all Higham in 1891, and they're back to Higham in 1911, so yes, it's human error!.

Thank you argylgran for clarifying that it isn't the right one in Westhoughton. And thanks for the new suggestion. I shall investigate. So do you think that in my original posting, the enumerator has indeed mis-recorded Elizabeth as a Mitchell when over the page her children are Higham?

Many thanks
Leyther

Maybe a possibility for your Joseph in 1901, if son John was listed both at home address and at other address, which could happen. I know his age is a few years out:


1901 England Census about John Higham
Name: John Higham
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Newton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Condition as to marriage: Single
Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Newton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3574
Folio: 33
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Sharrock 33
Mary E Sharrock 33
James Sharrock 12
Edith Sharrock 8
Joseph Sharrock 6
Herbert Sharrock 5
Harold Sharrock 3
Harry Sharrock 11 Months
Richard Mc Mahon 53
Joseph Higham 43 - married, born Wigan, coal miner & hewer
John Higham 15 - coal haulage below ground.

The Joseph in the 1901 posted by safc isn't the right one, Leyther. His wife was Mary.


1891 England Census about Maria Higham
Name: Maria Higham
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Westhoughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3106
Folio: 123
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Higham 25 - collier
Mary Higham 20 - wife
Ernest Higham 1
George Higham 1/12
Maria Higham 50 - mother



Wife Mary in 1901, when husband Joseph is boarding with the Baldwins, as already posted by safc:

1901 England Census about Mary J Higham
Name: Mary J Higham
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
Town: Bolton, Daubhill, and Rumworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Hulton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3603
Folio: 114
Page Number: 47
Household schedule number: 239
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary J Higham 30
Ernest Higham 11
George Higham 10
Alice A Higham 8
Hannah Higham 5
John Higham 3
Peter Higham 1


Together again in 1911, so not your Joseph, Leyther:


1911 England Census about Mary Jane Higham
Name: Mary Jane Higham
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 31 Grundy St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 23342
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Higham 45 - Labourer, cemetery.
Mary Jane Higham 40
Earnest Higham 21
George Higham 20
Alice Ann Higham 18
Hannah Higham 15
Jack Higham 13
Ellen Higham 10
Mary Jane Higham 4
Rachel Higham 2
Fred Higham 1/12

thank you - I will look into this to see if I can find a Maria in the family - I think I have Joseph's parents as John & Dorothy. In 1891, Jospeh and Wife Elizabeth are lodging with Father John (Wid) at the Balcarress Arms pub at 172 Scholes STreet.

:)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26 Ellis ST, Wigan, Lancashire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Higham Head Married Male 45 1866 Underground Labourer In Datallers Coal Mine Lancs Wigan
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Elizabeth Higham Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Lancs Wigan
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John Higham Son Single Male 24 1887 Soldier Last Occupation Coal Miner Hewer Lancs Wigan
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James Higham Son Single Male 22 1889 Pavior Corporation Street Dept Lancs Wigan
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Dorothy Higham Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Weaver Cotton Cloth Lancs Wigan
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Nellie Higham Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Cotton Cloth Weaver Lancs Wigan
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Tom Higham Son Single Male 15 1896 Dye Works Dyer Indigo Lancs Wigan
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Lily Higham Daughter Single Female 8 1903 School Lancs Wigan
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Fred Higham Son Single Male 6 1905 School Lancs Wigan
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Florrie Higham Daughter Single Female 2 1909 - Lancs Wigan
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Ethel Higham Daughter Single Female 0 1911 - Lancs Wigan

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Grundy Street, Westhoughton, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Baldwin Head Married Male 60 1841 Colliery Ventilation Furnaceman Halsall, Lancashire
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Ann Baldwin Wife Married Female 60 1841 - Halsall, Lancashire
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George Marsh Grand Son - Male 12 1889 Cotton Spinner Learner Wigan, Lancashire
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Edward Marsh Grand Son - Male 10 1891 - Wigan, Lancashire
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Maria Higham Boarder Widow Female 60 1841 - Westhoughton, Lancashire
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Joseph Higham Boarder Married Male 37 1864 Coal Miner Labourer (Below Ground) Westhoughton, Lancashire

Hello All

Just looking at the HIGHAM family from Wigan, and have them in 1911 at Ellis Street:
Name Age
Joseph Higham 45
Elizabeth Higham 44
John Higham 24
James Higham 22
Dorathy Higham 20
Nellie Higham 18
Tom Higham 15
Lily Higham 8
Fred Higham 6
Florrie Higham 2
Ethel Higham 6/12

I believe I have them in 1901 without the Father, but is there a possible census reporting error? You see it says the Mother is Elizabeth MITCHELL, first Son is John MITCHELL, but then over the page, the rest of the children are back to HIGHAMS. They are at #57 Whelley, Wigan.

If you look above at #59, there is another Family, Ann, Elizabeth & Ella Mitchell, so do you think the enumerator just "ditto'd" my Elizabeth and John as Mitchell in error as they were the last 2 on the page, when he should have wrote HIGHAM?( all the ages match everyone else). If so, can anyone find Joseph Higham born 1866 in 1901 seeing as Elizabeth lists herself as head of the house?

Name Age
Elizabeth Mitchell 34
John Mitchell 14
James Higham 11
Dorothy Higham 10
Nellie Higham 8
Thomas Higham 5
Joseph Higham 3
Elizabeth Higham

hope you can help
thank you