Genealogy Chat

I don't really see how a marr that took place a couple of days later is a good starting point for anything.
I might as well research my family tree by starting from the woman who sat next to me on the bus yesterday - at least we were on the same bus at the same time; if only I knew her name.

Realised that Boaler was just another marriage but I've not really explored that bit of the family but it could give a starting point.

I wonder if Samuel Price was previously married to a Mary? This son John matches the one on the 1841 census, accounting for the rounding down of the ages on that census.

Baptism: 7 Sep 1817 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Price - [Child] of Samuel Price & Mary
Abode: Trueman St
Occupation: Sawyer
Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Register: Baptisms 1816 - 1818, Page 192, Entry 1430
Source: LDS film 1658119

Curious that Alice's maiden name was Rothram and she ended up marrying a Rotheram. A cousin, maybe?

Marriage: 25 Apr 1836 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Samuel Price - (X), Sawyer, Liverpool
Alice Rothram - (X), Spinster, Same Parish
Witness: John Bentham; Mary Goodyer, (X)
Married by Banns by: Thomas Halton Curate
Register: Marriages 1835 - 1837, Page 161, Entry 1123
Source: LDS Film 93843

I was wondering where you saw the name Boaler, Cassie, and I see it's from that marriage record that I posted. Actually that name has nothing to do with your tree, it was just the name of the other couple that married, i.e. John Dalton & Jane Grey Boaler.

Your couple's marriage:

Marriage: 11 Nov 1863 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
Robert Price - of full age, Mariner, Bachelor, Kirkdale
Catherine Abraham - of full age, Spinster, Kirkdale
Groom's Father: Samuel Price, deceased, Sawyer
Bride's Father: Richard Abraham, deceased, Labourer
Witness: Richard Abraham; Mary Abraham
Married by Banns by: Thomas Hornby Vicar
Register: Marriages 1863 - 1866, Page 33, Entry 65
Source: LDS Film 1647986

Edit: Oops! Sorry, just saw that you have the marriage certificate.

You're amazing!
Samuel was definitely Robert's father as I have Robert and Catherine's marriage certificate

There is a tree on Ancestry that says that Robert Price's parents were Robert Rotheram & Alice Price. I think that's wrong and Robert Rotheram was his stepfather and Samuel Price was his father.


1841 England Census about Robert Price
Name: Robert Price
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 558
Book: 9
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Saml Price 50
Alice Price 40
John Price 20
Henry Price 7
Robert Price 2

Actually it might have just got better! I knew I had Boaler somewhere in my family. My father's relatives had a butcher's shop in St John's Market in Liverpool certainly in the 1960s but I never knew just where they fitted.

Hi
To my knowledge Alice married twice - Samuel Price in 1836 and then Robert Rotherham in 1853

Thank you Margee. I think this is it. I have also found Rotherham in my research with Robert's mother shown as Alice Rothram and her father has been shown as a Robert Rotherham.

No, I guess Robert Rotheram was his stepfather:


1861 England Census about Robert Price
Name: Robert Price
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1839
Relation: Stepson
Mother's name: Alice Rotheram
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 131
Piece: 2711
Folio: 69
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Rotheram 56
Alice Rotheram 59
Joseph Rotheram 15
Robert Price 22, mariner

I thought Robert Rotheram might be father-in-law on 1871 census but seems Catherine was Abraham.

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
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Abraham Catherine W Derby 8b 820
Boaler Jane Grey W Derby 8b 820
DALTON John W Derby 8b 820
Price Robert W Derby 8b 820

Possible?


1871 England Census about Robert Price
Name: Robert Price
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Price
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 102
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 3826
Folio: 115
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Price 32, mariner
Catherine Price 28
Robert Price 5
Mary A Price 10 Months
Robert Rotheram 66

Is there a kind person who has access to these please? I have found a listing in both for a Robert Price born 1839 in Liverpool and shown as a mariner. Any further information would be much appreciated as I think this is possibly my great grandfather.
Thank you