Genealogy Chat

Thank you , James def died in 1897 and both James and Mary were around for the 1881 census. Gt Grandma Emma Rose/ Bruce/ Trench just didn't make it clear her father was deceased!
The latter transposed record is probably James Rose junior.
It is very good of you.
Best wishes,
Maggie

I'm guessing the 1897 death you have is the one in Bromley? ( sorry I was searching London so didn't note it) .

Deaths Dec 1897
ROSE James 76 Bromley 2a 251

There is a mistake in transcription in 1891, James Rose has been mixed up with the Bailey family living next door, he is a widower .

AME: James Rose (Bailey)
[James Rose]
AGE: 72
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1819
RELATION: Head
SPOUSE'S NAME: Emily Bailey
GENDER: Male
WHERE BORN: Dorking, Surrey, England
CIVIL PARISH: Lewisham
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Lawrence
COUNTY/ISLAND: London
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Lewisham
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Lewisham
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 15
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 522
FOLIO: 17
PAGE NUMBER: 32
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
James Rose Bailey 72 <<<<James Rose NOT Bailey Journeyman baker
JamesRose 32
Rosina ( daughter in law

NAME: Emma Rose
SPOUSE: Henry Bruce
RECORD TYPE: Marriage
EVENT DATE: 9 Dec 1879
PARISH: St Mary, Islington
BOROUGH: Islington
FATHER NAME: James Rose
SPOUSE FATHER: Charles Bruce
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register

remarriage ( just in order to place James at that time)

NAME Emma Bruce
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1851
AGE: 41
SPOUSE: Samuel Trench
SPOUSE AGE: 48
RECORD TYPE: Marriage
EVENT DATE: 17 Nov 1892
PARISH: St Andrew, Barnsbury
BOROUGH: Islington
FATHER NAME: James Rose (Baker)
SPOUSE FATHER: James Trench
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register

James didn't die in 1897? not according to freebmd.

1881

NAME: Mary Rose
AGE: 64
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1817
RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD: Wife
SPOUSE: James Rose
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Benfleet, Essex, England
CIVIL PARISH: Battersea
COUNTY/ISLAND: London
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: No 25 Wye Street
MARITAL STATUS: Married
EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Wandsworth
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Battersea
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 19b
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 642
FOLIO: 60
PAGE NUMBER: 1
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
James Rose 62
Mary Rose 64
James Rose 21

just for my ref

NAME: Mary Scudder
SPOUSE: James Rose
RECORD TYPE: Marriage
EVENT DATE: 25 Apr 1847
PARISH: St Mary, Battersea
BOROUGH: Wandsworth
FATHER NAME: Henry Scudder
SPOUSE FATHER: William Rose
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register

Can anyone help me with this please.
My 2xGreat Grandmother Mary Scutter was born to Henry Scutter and unknown mother in South Benfleet 1817 and was married in the parish church Battersea to James Rose (a baker), who was a widower, and among other children, gave birth to my 1xGreat Grandmother Emma Rose in 1851 in Battersea.
I can't find a death or remarriage after James Rose's death in 1897.
best wishes Maggie