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Father's Name: Chelmer John Gray, born Dumbardon Scotland about 1896. Known as Gentleman Jack Gray.
My Grandfather's Name: Chelmer John Gray also born in Scotland.
My Grandmother's Name: Grace Anstry, born in Scotland and with the death of my Grandfather, remarried as Grace Paterson and moved to Galverston Texas.
Note: Possible that the Surnames may have been spelt in a different way. eg Gray - Greye; Grey; Graye. Paterson could have been Peterson etc.
Last known information was that my Father had Step Sisters and that they could have moved top Melbourne Australia.

http://www.genealogy.com/users/g/r/a/Walter-A-Gray/index.html



Chalmer John Gray
Also Known As: "Chelmer", "Jack", "Joseph"
Birthdate: January 21, 1896
Birthplace: Scotland, UK
Death: Died June 22, 1953 in Mossman, QLD, Australia
Cause of death: Coronary Occulsion
Place of Burial: Mossman, QLD, Australia
Immediate Family:

Son of Chalmer Gray and Grace Gray
Husband of Mary Gray
Father of Don Gray
Occupation: Engineer

http://www.geni.com/people/Chalmer-Gray/6000000014170898829

There is a marriage for.

Charles Gray to >>Grace Smith Young<< 1896 in Edinburgh.

Is his father's occupation given on the marriage cert?

There is a private tree on Ancestry for him which has his marriage in 1938 to Mary Cowe - would that be where his parents' names came from?

Just looked and transportation finished before then. Grrrr!

Was transportation still happening in the 20th Century?

Chalmers shows up in births as a first christian name , but no Gray/Grey.,,,,,,,,,applies to both male/female.

No matches on SP for a birth of Chelmer Gray from 1891 to 1901

So now have different spelling for the surname of Grace.

Scottish birth certs from the 1890's should have the date of the parents marriage on it

Name: Chelmer John Gray Engineer
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
Subdistrict: Douglas
State: Queensland
District: Kennedy
Country: Australia

Also at the same address is a Kevin Bernard Sawyer and a Millicent May Housse duties

On the next one in 1937 Chelmer is on his own.

My father gives his name as Chelmer John Gray or Charles Joseph Gray DOB as 21st January 1896, Dumbarden, Scotland and father as Chelmer John Gray, Gentleman, Mother as Grace Anstry. All efforts to trace them have failed. Dad served with the Black Watch from 1916 to 1919 WW1 and was wounded in December 1916. !920 onward he appears to have been in Australia but did spent time in Texas as a boy and later went to Canada where he married. His wife from that marriage died on the 5th February 1925. Can anyone assist in tracing my father or his family.

http://www.lookupuk.com/newboards/list.php?action=search&boardID=4&page=41&q=

(above from google)

Chris :)

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

edits

Cairns Post (Qld. : 1909 - 1954) Monday 29 June 1953

Mr. Chelmer John Gray, died on Monday morning, aged 56...

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http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(Newspapers)

A bit of a mystery! A friend in Oz needs to find out about her gfather-Chelmer John Gray c1896 born in Scotland. His parents were supposedly Charles and Grace. Nothing about his life seems to ring true to me and am beginning to wonder if he was transported to Oz in the early 1900s and invented a new life for himself!
He married Mary Cowe who was several years his junior and daughter of his boss!
Is a real strange one!!
Any ideas??

How did you work back to this 'couple'?

There is no Grace Anstey on any Scottish census 1841-1901

You don't have her in your GR tree.............

Anstey seems to be a predominantly DEVON name

There are no deaths on Scotlandspeople for Charles John Gray between 1893 and 1901


Getting no matches on SP for a birth for Grace after 1855 when registration began in Scotland

Where have you got your info from ?

Do you know where and when Grace was born?

Thank-you

Thanks guys x

Doing a free search gives no matches on those surnames from 1885 to 1910

Using Charles John Gray with just Grace brings up no matches either

Scottish BMD records are on Scotland's people which is NOT a subscription site.

To view info on there it is necessary to purchase credits.

I am looking for a marriage between Charles John Gray and Grace Anstey about 1894. Also Charles' death some 1 or 2 years later. I believe these may have occured in Dunbartonshire.
Thanks for any help.