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I am researching the Simmonds family tree for a friend and have hit a dead end with William Simmonds born in 1821 in Wem in Shropshire. I have no date of death but do know he married Ellen Hodnet also in Wem in 1943 and they had a son John Simmonds 1843-1894.He married Elizabeth Thompson 1847-1873. I am anxious to go back a generation or two and wonder if anyone can help to trace the parents of William Simmonds and Ellen Hodnet, Thanking you in anticipation.

Their father's name should be on the marrige cert if known

Although it's not a set in stone was he still alive on the sons marrige cert

Hi Shirley. I don't have the sons marriage cert. The information I have for the family so far is from public trees and ancestry hints which appears to be fairly accurate.

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name SIMMONDS
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1843
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM SIMMONDS married one of these people
ELLEN HODNET, ELIZABETH WILKINSON, ELIZABETH PARRY
Spouse's last name -
District WEM
District number -
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume 18
Page 319

Hi again. Yes, this is definitely the correct marriage to Ellen Hodnet. Does your source give either of the parents?

First name(s) Ellen
Last name Hodnet
Marriage year 1843
Marriage date 05 Jun 1843
Marriage place Wem
Denomination Anglican
Residence Dowe
Age Of Full Age
** Father's first name(s) John
** Father's last name Hodnet
** Spouse's first name(s) William
** Spouse's last name Simmonds
Spouse's residence Cotton
Spouse's age Of Full Age
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Simmonds
County Shropshire
Register date range 1837-1861
Archive reference P295/A/3/3
Page 80
Register type Marriage
Record set Shropshire marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


Will forward a cope of the cert



1841 poss but not at home
Name: Ellin Hodnet
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wem
Hundred: North Bradford (Wem Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Wem
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 902
Book: 3
Folio: 4
Page Number: 2

Glitter baby. That's brilliant. Does your source give a birth date for Ellen Hodnet ? Many thanks Wendy

Amazing. I didn't know you could access anything like that. I am very grateful too you for going to that trouble. Regards Wendy

It does sound like her. Being 15 she could have been working in service and she possibly could have married at 17 especially as it looks as ih it might have been a shotgun wedding with her son being born in the same year,

Oh bother

There is another Ellen Hodnet b1826 approx who married in 1845 in Shropshire and her father is William

So not got a clue which one is on 1841 census I posted.


Update

The other Ellen Hodnet is home with her parents of William and Martha in 1841

I don't think the 1826 one can be her as she married and had a child in 1843.

Just realised what you mean as the one on the 1841 census could be the one you have just described.

I am returning to this thread as I still have been unable to progress with my research on William Simmonds born in Wem Shropshire in 1821







I am returning to this thread as I have been unable to progress any further with my research on the ancestors of William Simmonds born In Wem, Shropshire in 1821. From his marriage certificate to Ellen Hodnet in 1843 I see that his father was also a William Simmonds. Can anyone help me to find out more about his father and, hopefully the name of his mother. I have all his history going forward up to his death in Birkenhead in 1888 [which actually lists his birth as 1819] but would love to finish my research by going back a generation or two. Thanks in advance and anticipation !

Have you tried Family Search Site ?

No. I haven't heard of it. Do you have to pay for it?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1349755

familysearch is free

I wonder if this could be William Simmonds listed on the same page as Ellen/Ellen on the 1841 census.


Census details
Family member first name ELIZABETH, MARY, ELIZA, SARAH, WILLIAM, ANN, SAMUEL, JOHN
Family member last name ROBERTS, MULLINER, PARSONS, SIMONS, LYTH, JONES, SEVILLE
First name(s) William
Last name Simons
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1821
Birth county Shropshire
Birth county as transcribed SHROPSHIRE
Birth place (other) England
Street Edstaston Hall
Parish or township Wem
City or borough -
Town Edstaston
County Shropshire
Country England
Registration district Wem & Whitechurch
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 902
Book number 3
Folio number 4
Page number 2

It does sound rather like him. Wish I could find the full name of his parents as that is really the only bit missing but I don't have any access to anything going back later than1821 except other trees and couldn't get anywhere with those/ All I know from his marriage cert was that his father was called William Simmonds too. Think I will have to admit defeat. Thanks again for all your hard work and the help you have given me.
Best regards
Wendy