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Mary Ann Butler

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Cecilia

Cecilia Report 17 Jul 2015 20:46

Still looking for any information on this lady. Born 1872/3.. Think in Darlington!
Have searched for the past 2yrs, and have drawn a blank :-( she is my Great Grandmother. Have marriage and death certificates for this lady, but cannot trace a birth certificate. Hope someone can help.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Jul 2015 21:12

Who is named as her father on the marriage cert?

Have you asked before about her?

You do realise, I hope, that until 1875, there weren't any penalties for not registering births

WHO did she marry? And when/where?

She should be on the 1881 census...............it's free on familysearch.

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Jul 2015 21:15

Yes, you have asked before.

Found by googling

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1303796

ONE thread per topic, please.

You were told on the other thread that her birth may simply not have been registered.

Why couldn't you accept that?

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Jul 2015 21:18



THIS is her

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Church Street, Darlington, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Butler Head Married Male 36 1845 General Labourer Leek, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Mary A Butler Wife Married Female 36 1845 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
James Butler Son Single Male 17 1864 Lodging Keeper (House) Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Thomas Butler Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Mary A Butler Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Ellen Butler Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Darlington, Durham, England

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Cecilia

Cecilia Report 17 Jul 2015 21:24

Thank you for your reply. No problems finding this person on census, just cannot locate birth certificate. Contacted GRO, but no luck. May b she wasn't registered, both her siblings were, as I have their certificates.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Jul 2015 22:19

Why do you think she was born in Darlington?

her parents said she was born in Sheffield, and one would expect them to know

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Jul 2015 00:13

Looking at the 1881 census

Thomas & James were boys so it was 'more important' to register their births.

Ellen was born after birth registration became compulsary.

Sorry, but it happened!

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Gee

Gee Report 18 Jul 2015 09:32

Have you got this birth certificate, ages were often not accurate on censuses



Name:Mary Ann Butler

Registration Year:1875

Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Sheffield

Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding

Volume:9c

Page:421

Edit: There is a death in 1875 so maybe not your girl

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Potty

Potty Report 18 Jul 2015 11:03

Bit of a long shot, but I cannot find this girl in 1881 or a death in Sheffield:

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
BUTLER Martha Ann Sheffield 9c 525

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 18 Jul 2015 11:16

James is unlikely to have been a full sibling to Mary


Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)

Butler Thomas Sheffield 9c 389
Johnson Mary Ann Sheffield 9c 389

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Cecilia

Cecilia Report 18 Jul 2015 12:56

Thanx for your replies.......Mary Ann Butler(nee Ryan) was first married to Thomas Johnson in 1863. They had a son, Martin James b 1864. May Ann,
then married Thomas Butler, after first husband Thomas Johnson died.

They then went on to have 3 children, Thomas b1970... Mary Ann b1872/3 and Ellen b 1875

Gee

Gee Report 18 Jul 2015 14:20

Potty

This is the girl born in 1873



Name:Martha A. Butler

Age:7

Estimated birth year:abt 1874

Relationship to Head:Daughter (Child)

Father:John Butler

Mother:Betsy Butler

Gender:Female

Where born:Attercliffe, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish:Attercliffe cum Darnall

County/Island:Yorkshire

Street address:34 Brook St

Occupation:Scholar

Registration district:Sheffield

Sub registration district:Attercliffe

ED, institution, or vessel:18
Piece:4668
Folio:96
Page Number:43

Household Members:

John Butler 40
Betsy Butler 39
George W. Butler 11
Martha A. Butler 7
Benjamin T. Butler 3
John Butler 1

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safc

safc Report 18 Jul 2015 15:30

Births Jun 1874 (>99%)
BUTLER Mary Ann Darlington 10a 18

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Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.

Cecilia

Cecilia Report 18 Jul 2015 15:43

Thanx Potty, don't think so!!