Missing birth records for two siblings

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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 34 Send Message	Rosezina	Report	2 Aug 2015 19:08
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 34 Send Message	I am unable to find any birth/baptism records for the siblings below: Thomas Thomas born abt 1809 - Anglesey Jane Thomas born abt 1819 - Liverpool Parents: John and Ann Thomas of Anglesey. Ann (a widow) and her 3 children were living in Liverpool by the 1841 census. I have searched on Ancestry, FMP and the Lancs OPC website, but found no records. Any tips or help with searches will be gladly appreciated - spent hours looking today!
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 19:17
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Just posting this for our reference. 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gascoyne Street Grimbleys Court, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Ann Thomas Female 60 1781 - Transcription Thos Thomas Male 32 1809 - Transcription Jane Thomas Female 23 1818 Lancashire, England Transcription John Thomas Male 19 1822 Lancashire, England and John's baptism. England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) John Last name Thomas Birth year 1822 Birth date 06 Jan 1822 Baptism year 1822 Baptism date 12 Feb 1822 Place Liverpool Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) Jno Mother's first name(s) Ann County Lancashire Country England Archive reference TNA/RG/4/939 Description LANCASHIRE: Liverpool, Great Cross Hall Street Chapel formerly in Edmund Street (Independent) : Births & Baptisms John Thomas was a labourer, then resident in Bath Street, Liverpool and Ann formerly Roberts was his wife.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 19:27
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Here is Jane's. This is from findmypast. England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Jane Last name Thomas Birth year 1818 Birth date 23 Mar 1818 Baptism year 1818 Baptism date 12 Apr 1818 Place Liverpool Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Anne County Lancashire Country England Archive reference TNA/RG/4/939 Description LANCASHIRE: Liverpool, Great Cross Hall Street Chapel formerly in Edmund Street (Independent) : Births & Baptisms John Thomas was a labourer of New Smithfield Street, Liverpool and Anne formerly Roberts, his wife.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 19:30
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Court 7, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ann Thomas Head Widow Female 69 1782 - Anglesey, Wales Transcription Thomas Thomas Son Unmarried Male 42 1809 Common Labourer Anglesey, Wales Transcription Jane Thomas Daughter Unmarried Female 32 1819 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Transcription Grace Roberts Daughter Married Female 29 1822 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Grace Last name Thomas Birth year 1820 Birth date 12 Jul 1820 Baptism year 1820 Baptism date 31 Jul 1820 Place Liverpool Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Jane (should be Anne) County Lancashire Country England Archive reference TNA/RG/4/939 Description LANCASHIRE: Liverpool, Great Cross Hall Street Chapel formerly in Edmund Street (Independent) : Births & Baptisms John Thomas, labourer of Bath Street, Liverpool and Anne formerly Roberts, his wife.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 19:44
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Possible for Thomas? John was a labourer but there is no maiden name for Ann. Anglesey Baptisms Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) THOMAS Last name Thomas Birth year 1809 Baptism year 1809 Baptism day 21 Baptism month May Baptism place Beaumaris Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Ann County Anglesey Country Wales Record set Anglesey Baptisms
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	2 Aug 2015 19:44
	Thomas Thomas Wales, Anglesey, Parish Registers Name Thomas Thomas Event Type Baptism Event Date 06 May 1809 Event Place Aberffraw, Anglesey, Wales
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 20:01
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Marriage for John and Ann? Anglesey Marriages Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) JOHN Last name THOMAS Birth year - Marriage year 1806 Marriage day 23 Marriage month Nov Marriage place LLANDYSILIO Spouse's first name(s) ANN Spouse's last name ROBERTS Groom's parish Llandysilio Bride's parish Llandysilio County Anglesey Witnesses were Cimon? Frazier also Simon Frazier (same person??) and Griffith Williams.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 20:17
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	malyon, the birth you've posted has parents Owen and Ellen. Baptism place Aberffraw Father's first name(s) Owen Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Aug 2015 20:26
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 83, Raymond Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ann Thomas Head Widow Female 80 1781 - Wales Transcription Jane Thomas Daughter Unmarried Female 45 1816 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England ??? England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) ANN Last name THOMAS Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1781 Age 85 Death quarter 1 Death year 1866 District LIVERPOOL County Lancashire Volume 8B Page 64
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 34 Send Message	Rosezina	Report	2 Aug 2015 20:41
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 34 Send Message	Fantastic work, thanks everyone. I did see the birth for Thomas in Beaumaris 1809, earlier, but was not too sure it was the right Thomas. I know Beaumaris is not too far from Anglesey, or is it in Anglesey? Now I can finally add Jane, Thomas and Grace to the family tree, and hopefully dig further back.

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