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trying to find relations etc of my father Alfred Wright who was born in 1925 in South Sheilds he had a brother my uncle Richard . im David Wright :-)

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Was their mothers maiden name Hugill? Richard born 1930? Can't see other births in the same area.

There are other Wright/Hugill births but marriages in those areas

Are these the names of your grandparents?


Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%)
Hugill Lily Wright S.Shields 10a 1599 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Lee Laurence McCartney S.Shields 10a 1599
McCartney Catherine Lee S.Shields 10a 1599
Wright Richard H Hugill S.Shields 10a 1599 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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im not sure about hugill as the name my fathers mums name was gardener which I don't fully understand neeeed help :-)

Hello David

Do you know Alfred's birth, or death date ?

What was his Mum's first name?

Do you know his Dad's name?

Was Richard older or younger that Alfred?

Have you looked on Freebmd for his birth ??

Not seeing any for an Alfred with mmn gardener

Do you have his marriage cert for his dad's name

Well there is another birth with mmn Wright for 1925

AND a later marriage fo r and an Audrey Wright to Gardener in the 1930,s
Could this be a possibility !?

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Message from David:

Hi I can give you the date of his death 18th of October 1972 and his DOB was the 18th of January 1925 in South Sheilds .Newcastle. On my mum and dads marriage certificate his father was called Richard Hepplewhite, and underneath it says Wright deceased .

So this looks to be his father's birth:

Name: Richard Hepplewhite Wright
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a Page: 814

And Alfred's death:
Name: Alfred Wright
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1925
Date of Registration: Dec 1972
Age at Death: 47
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d Page: 2437

Which does seem to fit with this birth:
Name: Alfred Wright
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hugill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 1560

David, how do know that Alfred's Mum's surname was Gardener?

Dare I suggest that Richard H might have fathered Alfred with another woman just before marrying Lily, going by the birth and marriage dates?
As Alfred was born January 1925, he would have ben conceived approx. April 1924, so Richard might not have known about the pregnancy until after his marriage to Lily.

If the name Gardener has come to you by family lore, rather than from some birth or marriage record, then the 1925 birth with mms Wright (posted by Shirley) could be correct.
If his mother was Audrey, who married Mr Gardener, she would have been referred to as Gardener in Alfred's family after that.

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription

First name(s) Richard
Last name Wright
Regiment Durham Light Infantry
Event year 1918
Age 20
Birth year 1898
Birth town South Shields
Birth county Durham
Birth country England
Residence town South Shields
Residence county Durham
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920

Unfortunately it doesn't give much information- some of the later papers list him as Richard Hepplewhite Wright- of 46 Bede Street.

ArgyllGran- the birth date would be wrong for the Alfred Wright with mm Wright- he was born in the last qtr of 1925

Richards family at 56 Bede Street in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
56, Bede Street, South Shields, Durham, England

Robert Wright Head Married Male 40 1861 Coal Miner Wasteman South Shields,
Elizabeth Wright Wife Married Female 35 1866 - South Shields, Durham, England
Mary Wright Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - South Shields, Durham, England
David Wright Son Single Male 13 1888 Horse Driver Colliery (Below) South Shields, Durham
Dorothy Wright Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - South Shields, Durham, England
Robert Wright Son Single Male 9 1892 - South Shields, Durham, England
Margaret A Wright Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - South Shields, Durham, England
John E Wright Son Single Male 5 1896 - South Shields, Durham, England
Richard H Wright Son Single Male 3 1898 - South Shields, Durham, England
Elizabeth E Wright Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - South Shields, Durham,
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Same family in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
27 Earsdon Terrace Tyne Dock South Shields, South Shields, Durham, England

Robert Wright Head Widower Male Underground Labourer 54 1857 Durham South Shields
Mary Wright Daughter Single Female - 24 1887 Durham South Shields
David Wright Son Single Male Coal Miner Hewer 23 1888 Durham South Shields
Robert Wright Son Single Male Coal Miner Putter 19 1892 Durham South Shields
Margaret Ann Wright Daughter Single Female - 17 1894 Durham South Shields
John Edward Wright Son Single Male Colliery Screener Labourer Above Ground 15 1896 South Shields
Richardoon Wright Son - Male School Confectioner's Errand Boy 13 1898 South Shields
Elizabeth Ellen Wright Daughter - Female School 10 1901 Durham South Shields
Alice Maud Wright Daughter - Female - 8 1903 Durham South Shields
Esther Wright Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Durham South Shields

Thanks everyone for this information everyone has given about my father Alfred Wright I would love to know if possible if there are any living relatives still alive this day. I know my father had a brother called Richard who lived in Sheffield for a while in the late 60 ties early seventies and then his last known where abouts was Hemel Hemstead :-)

Hi Everyone all this information ive been given how do I save it to a file ? :-)

Not quite sure what you mean, David.

You can copy & paste it.

To ArgyllGran please can you tell me what question I have put to you? or answer to your question :-) What I need to know all the information that yourself and other people are sending me I would like to save to a file or put it on a disc etc. :-) :-)

David, you asked everyone how you could save all the information you have been given.

ArgyllGran answered you and suggested that you could copy the information and paste it into a blank document which you can then save to your computer.

If you don't know how to do that, then you need someone better at explaining than me, or you could google the question.

David -

The question you put (not to me personally, but to everyone helping on this thread) was:
"Hi Everyone all this information ive been given how do I save it to a file ? "

You can copy & paste anything on this thread to a document file, and then copy that to a disc.

I wasn't sure if something as simple as that was what you meant, or if you were hoping for a more technologically sophisticated answer.

:-)YEP SORRY ARGYLLGRAN I CAN BE SUCH A DUMMY AT TIMES :-D

That's OK, David - we all have our moments!