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Welcome to the Community boards Lynn.
(I'll let Lynn know how to find her replies) :-)
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Lynn
what do you know so far?
have you had another thread on these guys?
Can you post a link so that research is not duplicated?
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Name: Frederick Bettles, engineer
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Age: 21
Spouse: Emily Ruth Hitchcock
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Feb 1895
Parish: St Clement, Barnsbury
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Edward Bettles, brass finisher
Spouse Father: George Hitchcock (dec) house decorator
Register Type: Parish Register
William and Ruth Joslin? were witnesses.
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1891 Clerkenwell D7 >29
Chas Robt Johnson 1864 ITALY
Eliza Marion Johnson 1865 Bermondsey wife
Chas fredk 1884
Catherine Elizabeth Johnson 1863 Islington sister (is she the one with Bettles??
Maryb
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 Mayton Street Holloway N, Islington, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Frederick Bettles Father - Male House Painter 37 1874 Lyon St Cabdomer RD
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Emily Ruth Bettles Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Park St N London
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Emily Bettles Daughter Single Female - 15 1896 Andover Rd N London
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Frederick Bettles Son - Male - 12 1899 Arasidal Sq Barnsbury London
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Greg Elizabeth Bettles Daughter - Female - 7 1904 St Johns Rd Highgate Mdx
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Harry Bettles Son - Male - 4 1907 Winchester Rd Edmonton Mdx
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Charles Shepherd Nephew Single Male House Painter 24 1887 Rufford St Caledonian Rd London
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
42, Orpingley Road, Islington, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Bettles Head Married Male 27 1874 House Decorator Islington, Middlesex, England
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Emily R Bettles Wife Married Female 25 1876 - Islington, Middlesex, England
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Emily R Bettles Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Islington, Middlesex, England
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Frederick Bettles Son - Male 2 1899 - Islington, Middlesex, England
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Charles E Bettles Son - Male 0 1901 - Islington, Middlesex, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Orpingley Road, Islington, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Bettles Head Married Male 47 1844 Brass Finisher Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth Bettles Wife Married Female 49 1842 - Middlesex, England
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Edward F Bettles Son Single Male 19 1872 Shopman Islington, Middlesex, England
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Fredk Bettles Scholar - Male 17 1874 Engineer Islington, Middlesex, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
36, Trinity Street, Islington, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Bettles Head Married Male 37 1844 Brass Finisher Islington, Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth Bettles Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Middlesex, England
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Kate Johnson Daughter In Law Single Female 18 1863 Furrier Islington, Middlesex, England
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Edward Bettles Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
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Fredk Bettles Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
Just posting this as the name Johnson is also mentioned as parent or guardian. Frederick left on 2 July 1886.
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
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First name(s) Frederick
Last name Bettles
Birth year 1876
Birth date 27 Feb 1876
Event year 1883
School name Hersham Board/Council Boys' School, Walton on Thames
Town Walton on Thames
County Surrey
Country England
>>Parent name(s) George Johnson of Church road, gardener
Book type Admissions
Archive reference CES/91/8
Folio / page no. 14
Archive Surrey History Centre
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
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Elizabeth Davies 1842 born St Sepulchre Smithfield daugther of Edward 1806 died 1864 south wales and Catherine 1805-1884 North Wales. She had a brother Rees William Davies
Elizabeth Davies married John Johnson St Mary's Islington 23/9/1861
1871 Islington
Catherine Davies widow born wales
Rees W Davies
Charles R Johnson grandson born 1863/4 Milan Italy
On the 1881 census returns for Edward and Elizabeth Bettles there is a Kate Johnson born @ 1862/3.
1901 Edward and Elizabeth Bettles
have Catherine Johnson with them.
So it looks like Edward Bettles married Elizabeth Johnson widow nee Davies.
Maryb
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One of the trees on Ancestry has the birth cert of Frederick bettles 1874 Islington to Edward Bettles and Elizabeth Bettles, formerly Davies.
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Lynn I see you have Frederick 1874 in your tree
so that would I assume be this one?
Fredk. Bettles
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Fredk. Bettles
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Edward Bettles
Mother: Elizabeth Bettles
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 36 Trinity St
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 227
Folio: 84
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Bettles 37
Elizabeth Bettles 38
Kate Johnson 18
Edward Bettles 9
Fredk. Bettles 7
If you can tell us who you have worked back from it would help :-)
edit that's probably this couple
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
Beettles Edward Holborn 1b 930
Johnson Elizabeth Holborn 1b 930
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I can't find a marriage of Frederick Bettles & Elizabeth Davies/Davis anywhere.
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This is the marriage of that Frederick so maybe not who you are looking for?
Frederick Charles Bettles
in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Frederick Charles Bettles
Spouse: Emma Bullock
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Apr 1873
Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Frances Bettles
Spouse Father: William Bullock
Register Type: Parish Register
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same family 1871
Name: Fredrick C Bettis
[Fredrick C Bettles]
[Fredrick C Bettles]
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Francis Bettis
Mother's name: Harriet Bettis
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell
Civil Parish: Islington St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Household schedule number: 228
Piece: 281
Folio: 19
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Bettis 57
Harriet Bettis 48
Emily Bettis 23
Fredrick C Bettis 21
Henry C Bettis 14
Hannah Bettis 10
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Is this the family you are looking for ?
1861
Name: Frederick Bettles
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Francis Bettles
Mother's name: Harriet Bettles
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 286
Piece: 126
Folio: 118
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Bettles 47
Harriet Bettles 39
William Bettles 20
Edward Bettles 18
Emily A Bettles 13
Frederick Bettles 11
John Henry Bettles 4
Hannah J Bettles 7/12
Mitchell
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From the 1851 census through to the 1911 census there are 78 Bettles living in Islington on Findmypast.
Of course some of these people will appear in all 7 of these census years so probably less than 78 overall.
If you have any names I can have a look for you.
I can't find a marriage of a Frederick Bettles to an Elizabeth Davis/Davies.
Kath. x
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Hello
I'm still searching for any Bettles who lived in Islington around 1850 up to present date.
In particular descendants of Frederick Bettles, Elizabeth Bettles nee Davis/ Davies.
Thank you Lynn
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