Genealogy Chat

Where was William 1871 born?

How do you know he was the son of either William or Henry?

Have you found him on census records?

This baptism is probably a complete red herring as a couple of years out. The father William is a railway policeman, abode is Ipplepen.

First name(s) William John
Last name Cater
Birth year 1873
Birth date 02 Apr 1873
Baptism year 1873
Baptism date 22 Jun 1873
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Paignton, St John
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Maria
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust

Ah! - Wiliam 1861

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Toplar Cottage, Village, Alphington, St Thomas, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Lendon Head Married Male 31 1830 Shoe Maker Drewsteignton, Devon, England
Phebe Lendon Wife Married Female 29 1832 Shoe Binder Drewsteignton, Devon, England
Harriett Lendon Sister Unmarried Female 35 1826 Cook Drewsteignton, Devon, England
Susan Lendon Niece Unmarried Female 14 1847 Boot Binder Drewsteignton, Devon, England
William Cater Apprentice Unmarried Male 14 1847 Shoe Maker Apprentice Alphington, Devon, England

?? William in 1851 - born same place as entry in the later census

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ide Lane, Alphington, Saint Thomas, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Cater Head Married Male 62 1789 Agricultural Labourer Hennock, Devon, England
Mary Cater Wife Married Female 61 1790 - Devon, England
John Cater Son Married Male 28 1823 Agricultural Labourer Ide, Devon, England
Elizabeth Cater Daughter-In-Law Married Female 27 1824 - South Molton, Devon, England
William Cater Nephew - Male 4 1847 - Alphington, Devon, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Samuel Cater Nephew - Male 2 1849 - Dunchideock, Devon, England
Henry Johns Visitor - Male 0 1851 - Alphington, Devon, England
William Cater Son Married Male 24 1827 Tanner Labourer Ide, Devon, England
Mary Jane Cater Daughter-In-Law Married Female 24 1827 - Wiltshire, England
Frances Ann Cater Niece - Female 0 1851 - Alphington, Devon, England

Looks to be the same Henry in 1861 but no brother William showing

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Dewdneys Court, Upton Pyne, St Thomas, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Cater Head Married Male 38 1823 Railway Labourer Devon, England
Elizabeth Cater Wife Married Female 38 1823 - South Tawton, Devon, England
Henry Cater Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Alphington, Devon, England <<<<<<
Samuel Cater Son - Male 3 1858 - Upton Pyne, Devon, England
Mary Cater Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Upton Pyne, Devon, England

Alphington a former village, today is a suburb of Exeter

Is this Henry in 1871 - he's a Railway Porter b Exeter

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Summerland Square, St Sidwell, Exeter, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Horrill Head - Male 27 1844 - Devon, England
Jane Horrill Wife - Female 26 1845 - Somerset, England
William L Horrill Son - Male 2 1869 - Devon, England
Louis Horrill Son - Male 1 1870 - Devon, England
Henry Cater Lodger - Male 20 1851 - Devon, England
Thomas Martin Lodger - Male 21 1850 - Devon, England

Is it William Snr 1846 and Henry 1851 who are brothers and William 1871 is son to one of them?

Do you have any of them on earlier census records? Can you post the details if you do as that would make looking for them easier.

If William c.1871 and Henry c.1851 were brothers then the father William must have been born earlier than 1846, or have I misunderstood the relationships?

Kath. x

Thanks, I didn't know about searching under initials only. I don't think either is my relative who was a railway porter,however it has opened up many search possibilitiesI'm also searching his brother Henry as I'm not sure which was the father of William Cater who is the real protagonist. William senior was born in 1846, Henry in 1851 and William in about 1871. Thanks. Alison

When was William Carter born?

There is a W. C. listed on the 1891 census at the City of Exeter Asylum born c.1839 who was a toll collector and described as a lunatic.

There is another W. C. who was born c.1832 who was a retired clergyman born Kent also described as a lunatic.

Kath. x

People in institutions are often listed by their initials only, so try searching using W as first name and C as surname. Also can be listed as 'inmate' or 'patient'.

Andy

Thanks, it is an institution rather than an address, The North Devon Asylum . I know that sometimes the inmates names are not written in full. I'm looking to see if a William Cater was there in 1881 or 1891. I've tried searching by name but can't find him so perhaps it will be the case for this institution. Alison

It depends on which site you are using. If you mean on Genes then I can't tell you as I don't use their records but you certainly can search by address on Findmypast.

If you'd care to give us the address someone can have a look for you. Give the census year you would like to look at

Kath. x

Is there a way of searching a census return from a known address, if so how do I di it?