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Mary -Jane

Mary -Jane Report 4 Aug 2016 11:58

Is it possible to search on genes reunited putting the mothers maiden name in a search facility.? I know it is on BMD but I can only find a long list of children on genes reunited and then you have to look at each one to see who the mother was

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Aug 2016 12:18

Only after 3Q 1911. Before then the index only lists either the father's surname or, in the case of a single mother, her surname. Put the mother's surname in the Optional Keywords box.

If you know the general area, you could ignore the ones outside of that.

Mary -Jane

Mary -Jane Report 6 Aug 2016 14:35

Thank you very much, I will have a go. Thank you.
Mary

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Aug 2016 16:20

Depends when the child was born but after 1911 it's easier to use FreeBMD

mgnv

mgnv Report 10 Aug 2016 08:47

You can also add the county or the registration district to the keywords.
E.g., there are 60 John Smiths with mum's maiden surname of Jones b 1914 +/-2, but only one in Easington RD so keywords as Jones Easington or Jones Durham gets just 1 hit.

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It's worth suplementing the GRO index with a local index lookup, if there's a local index online - see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

The local index must have a different ref, as their rego's aren't organized in the same way - local Bs & Ds must give a subdistrict, - they can also give difft identifiers, e.g., here are 2 John Henry's

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SMITH John H Deansgate Archives+, Manchester Central Library JONES DEA/61/86

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1865
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SMITH John Henry London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library JONES LRD/65/21

Consider these 3 deaths from FreeBMD:

Deaths Sep 1849 (>99%)
Smith John Cheltenham 11 227

Deaths Dec 1849 (>99%)
Smith John Cheltenham 11 162
Smith John Cheltenham 11 169

These are the same 3 deaths put in the same order from the local index

Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
SMITH John 1 1849 Cheltenham, Cheltenham 17 215
SMITH John 27 1849 Cheltenham, Charlton Kings 5 46
SMITH John 31 1849 Cheltenham, Cheltenham 17 369

I might suspect that, say, shortly before the 1841 census, John Smith married a Mary in South Shields.
Here's a lookup of Mary with spouse John Smith

Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%)
NORTH Mary South Shields 24 168
TURNER Mary South Shields 24 166 [This is a spurious entry - the real page # for John is 168]

Marriages Sep 1839 (>99%)
SMITH Mary South Shields 24 135

Of course, this just indicates there's a Mary on the same GRO page as John Smith - I would actually get both these hits if I replaced Mary by George.

Here's these two John Smiths from http://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/9966/Register-Search

John SMITH married Ann SMITH on 31 Dec 1837
Register: C F1 Entry: 79

John SMITH married Mary SMITH on 22 Sep 1839
Register: C F1 Entry: 409

There's a key at http://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/10778/Marriage-indexes
which shows code C F is St Hilda's, South Shields.

The local ref, if given, usually has 3 elements.
Firstly, a code indicating which subdistrict or church (or the rego office/registrar's own rego).
[This may not always be decoded, but were above]
Secondly a register sequence number within each code.
Thirdly, a page or entry number (Manchester was a page #). Marrs usually have an entry #, so one knows who wed whom.