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coraiyo

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Welcome to the boards, Karin.

Someone called Val, with username "coraiyo", has a thread on Ancestry, and has contributed to one on Rootsweb, about a family called McLeman (and other inter-related names) in Avoch, Ross-shire.

Is that relevant to you?

What does that mean Karin

If you need help with info you have to give details of who you are looking for and some idea of dates and area

PM from Karin -

Yes, she is my aunty and she has recently passed on. I joined Genes Reunited to try and find our family tree - MARSHALL of Tiverton Devon England. Any info would be most welcome. Thankyou.


Karin, thanks for your reply. I'm sorry to hear of your aunt's death.
However, we need more detail to go on - first names, years of births, marriages, deaths, etc. Basically, tell us everything you already know about your Marshalls (but remember not to post exact dates for anyone still living, as this is a public site).

For future replies, please type your message in the white box at the very end of this thread, below where it says "Add your reply", and then click "Submit". That way, all the helpers can see the information, and not just one person.

Also, it would be helpful to you if you edit the title of this thread to read "Marshall, Tiverton" - or something like that.

When was your aunt born? What were her parents' names?

I can see births of several Valerie Marshalls (assuming she was a Marshall) in Devon between 1938 and 1953.

From Ancestry message board 2008:

MARSHALL of Tiverton (by coraiyo )
Hi I have a Thomas Marshall married Elizabeth Cockram in 1805, but I cannot find any children apart from John b 1806. Can anyone help please Thanks Val
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Baptism:
First name(s) John
Last name Marshall
Birth year 1806
Birth date 10 Jun 1806
Baptism year 1806
Baptism date 30 Jun 1806
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Tiverton, St Peter
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Elizth
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust

If this is John (1806), and if he was indeed an only child, he certainly did his best to make up for it!


John Marshall
in the 1851 England Census
Name: John Marshall
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Marshall
Gender: Male
Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Tiverton
Town: Tiverton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Tiverton
Sub-registration district: Tiverton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5l
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 1889
Folio: 298
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marshall 44
Mary Marshall 42
William Marshall 21
Elizabeth Marshall 19
Samuel Marshall 17
Thomas Marshall 14
Robert Marshall 13
Mary Marshall 11
Ann Marshall 7
Sarah Marshall 5
Hannah Marshall 3
John Marshall 1week

a brother ???Thomas
Last name Marshall
Birth year 1814
Birth date 24 Apr 1814
Baptism year 1814
Baptism place Tiverton
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's occupation Grocer
Residence Town Of Tiverton
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Devon Family History Society

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William Marshall
England, Devon Bishop's Transcripts
Name William Marshall
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 06 Jan 1817
Event Place Tiverton, Devon, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Thomas Marshall
Mother's Name Elizth Marshall



Robert Marshall
England, Devon Bishop's Transcripts
Name Robert Marshall
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 06 Jan 1817
Event Place Tiverton, Devon, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Thomas Marshall
Mother's Name Elizth Marshall



William Marshall
England, Devon Bishop's Transcripts
Name William Marshall
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 08 Sep 1816
Event Place Tiverton, Devon, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Thomas Marshall
Mother's Name Elizth Marshall



Robert Marshall
England, Devon Bishop's Transcripts
Name Robert Marshall
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 09 Sep 1816
Event Place Tiverton, Devon, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Thomas Marshall
Mother's Name Elizth Marshall



Elizth Marshall
England, Devon Bishop's Transcripts
Name Elizth Marshall
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 09 Apr 1820
Event Place Tiverton, Devon, England
Father's Name Thos Marshall
Mother's Name Elizth Marshall

robert marshall as posted above has father as a grocer same as thomas baptised 1814
Robert
Last name Marshall
Birth year 1817
Birth date 06 Jan 1817
Baptism year 1817
Baptism place Tiverton
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thos
Mother's first name(s) Eliz'Th
Father's occupation Grocer
Residence Tiverton
County Devon

1851
Westexe, Tiverton, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Beer Head Married Male 46 1805 Carpenter Tiverton, Devon, England
Transcription
Mary Beer Wife Married Female 35 1816 Milliner Tiverton, Devon, England
Transcription
Emma Beer Daughter - Female 16 1835 School Tiverton, Devon, England
Transcription
Robert Marshall Lodger Unmarried Male 34 1817 Tailor Tiverton, Devon, England

William
Last name Marshall
Birth year 1817
Birth date 06 Jan 1817
Baptism year 1817
Baptism place Tiverton
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thos
Mother's first name(s) Eliz'Th
Father's occupation Grocer
Residence Tiverton
County Devon

Elizabeth
Last name Marshall
Birth year 1820
Birth date 09 Apr 1820
Baptism year 1820
Baptism place Tiverton
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's occupation Grocer
Residence Tiverton
County Devon

Elizth
Last name Marshall
Age 1
Birth year 1820
Death year 1821
Burial year 1821
Burial date 21 Jan 1821
Denomination Anglican
Burial place Tiverton
County Devon

Marshall's of Tiverton. Yes this is the line. thankyou so much, I am checking it out.

Regards,

Karin

Which particular line do you want to follow, Karin?

Which of those children of Thomas and Elizabeth is your direct ancestor?
Or do you not know?

My Line is John Marshall 1806, son of Thomas Marshall and Elizabeth Cockram. My lineage is -

John Marshall 1806 married Mary Knight. They are the parents of
Samuel Knight Marshall 1834-1930 who married Janet Lumsden 1841-1908. Samuel Knight Marshall came to Australia. His son John Marshall 1865-1942 married Elizabeth Ann Black. His son Samuel Knight Marshall 1899 is my grandfather.

I am going to Tiverton Devon this year and I wanted to visit the township, cemeteries, take photos, visit the South West Heritage Centre, etc.

Any help with the ancestors from Tiverton would be much appreciated.

kind regards,

Karin

The 1851 census for John is the right one, in that case.

So as you know about John's descendants, I assume you're more interested in Thomas and Elizabeth's other children?

Maddie posted the 1851 re Robert (baptised 1817).
I don't see him in 1861 or later. Perhaps he died - there are a couple of possible deaths:

Deaths Dec 1852 (>99%)
MARSHALL Robert Tiverton 5b 294

Deaths Mar 1857 (>99%)
Marshall Robert Tiverton 5b 309

Yes I am more interested in the other children. It looks as though William and Robert were twins, both born and baptized on the same days.

Thankyou for your help

Karin :-)

Devon Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

Marshall Willm 1816 1824 Devon Burials Tiverton

(5/9/1824. Abode, Tiverton, age 8)


08 July 1847 - Exeter Flying Post - Exeter, Devon, England

Died.
June 26, aged 63, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Thomas Marshall, of Westexe, Tiverton.


01 January 1848 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

Died.
Dec. 22, at his residence, Westexe, Tiverton, Mr. T. Marshall, aged 70.

Chris :)


Tiverton - Listing in Pigot's Directory 1822 - Devon Heritage

MARSHALL, Thomas, Grocer, Gold St.

http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Tiverton/Tiverton-ListinginPigotsDirectory1822.htm

(above from google search)


http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonWillsProject/DWP-Ma-Mc.html

(if any on above)


MARSHALL, THOMAS 70 Order
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in TIVERTON AND DULVERTON Volume 10 Page 177

(if above refers to Newspaper Death)

MARSHALL, THOMAS 60 Order
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in TIVERTON AND DULVERTON Volume 10 Page 211

(another about)

Re the baptism records for William and Robert :

A William and a Robert were baptised in 1816, and another one of each was baptised in 1817. However, if the two pairs had the same parents, then the second pair must have been twins, to be baptised so soon after the first pair, who presumably died in infancy.

Thankyou very much for the info. I have a lot of homework to do.

Many thanks,

Karin